I have Porterfield. they stop like a ****. brake dust is low also. but it just started to squeel on me... any idea how to get rid of it...

 

Well where to start:

1. EBC redstuff bite/stop/work BETTER than stock pads PERIOD
2. They certianly dust less
3. Heck, they were even cheaper through Summit than my stockers

I have used then now on my C32/300 SRT/Fusion, and will be switching to them on my S600 next month.

I know timeless had squeaking issues, and I tried to talk him through them and feel bad for him as well. But bottom line is, my stockers would Fade on the track, and the REDS NEVER did. I have experienced NO cold issues as above, and even my wife didn't know the difference other than they STOPPED well.

Tirerack recomended them to me, as they sell NO pad for our toys that are track worhy in their humble opinion.

Use what you like, but EBC's work my friends, and they do it VERY well.

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Nobody denies that, but why do you seem to be so impressed by that? The real question is how do they PERFORM vs the Porterfields? From what I am gathering both pads give less dust but maybe the EBCs are best at that aspect.

Especially since you are talking about heat and performance factors, comparisons to OEM are pretty mute.

 

Oh god here we go again...

 

i'm still on the fence between EBC reds and Akebono Ceramic. both have good reviews on this forum, akebonos are 20$ cheaper but that's not much of factor.

 

Hey Jangy:

I was just trying to show some points of facts about the EBC.

The porterfields and Abokone, sorry for the spelling guys, are NOT track worthy in Tireracks opinion. Since I wanted something that was, I went with and can HIGHLY recomend the Reds. Keep the yellows for track ONLY cars guys as they DO require heat to work.

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there is much more to it then tirerack's opinion.

 

Oh please, I have been racing for more years than I care to remeber my friend. I simply used them, because FEW companies stock aftermarket brakes for our cars.

They are NOT God sent, or the know all company,this I agree. But they are also not bad as a source of information.

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OK, so you are saying that the Porterfields are not good because Tirerack says so? I'm confused more now than before.

 

Haha!! Hey tail. How you been? It is a little ironic to see you in a brake thread, though .

 

Porterfield stocks them.

Also, don't you think it is a little biased to get advice from a company that sells particular brands? Don't you think I would recommend what I sold as well?

It still comes down to which AFTERMARKET pad has what characteristics to IT that make it better than the alternatives. I have yet to hear anyone on here say that the EBCs bite well, when I know the Porterfields do and it has been posted in this thread by others.

 

. I have been using it (EBC Reds).

 

WOW, come on guys. You REALLY analize everyting WAY TOOOOO much.

For the last time NO, I am not biased towards tirerack nor do I believe they are the HOLY GRAIL of all knowledge, I was simply repeating information that they have given me.

Now as far as track going, or should I say what other people and myself use at the track, EBC redstuff works GREAT. NO ONE, yes NO ONE uses Portefield or Abokones at the track. That includes, P cars, BMW, MY AMG, Nissan, etc, etc. EBC's have a good following, and many people REALLY like them for multi purpose cars, such as ours.

It really isn't this hard guys. Go to a track and use your mouth to ask questions. LISTEN, and learn. I'm out, good luck and good buy to this GRILLING.

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I believe Porterfields are truly the top brand...with a top price.

For daily driving and occasional track use with less brake dust...and considering price...can't go wrong with the EBC Red pads.

Is sort of like the tire discussions. PS2s are the best if money is no object...but Vredesteins and Toyos do almost the job for much less.

 

OK, buddy. Yeah, that really made your point. Good buy to you too.

 

Agreed, I am just not into letting MRAMG1 continue to say that they are NOT track worthy. That is simply BS, given Porterfields history and choices in compounds.

The pomposness of people that have been on a track is amazing around here.

 

While porterfields are nice they are not the end all be all brake pad. If you were truly tracking the E55 you'd get Performance friction '97 or '01 pads or Brembo RB-170, RB-250 or RB-291 race pads.

Porterfields are nice street pads and auto-x pads not a real track pad. The EBC redstuff pad is a slightly better track pad.

 

jesus, why is everything a damn debate around here? If you liike porterfields, get porterfields. If you like EBC, get EBC.

 

They are not track worthy.

Funny you mention "Pomposness" (Your spelling which is wrong) seeing that you TRY to position yourself as the only one that knows....

Problem is you are really clueless, while you may be an enthusiast you are far from an expert and most of the time your advice is downright incorrect and dangerous

 

thats what im saying let the guy decide what he wants.

 

For what it is worth I had the R4S pads on my Dinan S2 540 (equipped with the 14in front Brembos) for a HPDE with the local BMW CCA.

The brakes performed flawlessly and did not have an ounce of fade trying to stop the 4,000lb+ car at Road Atlanta.

I don't know how long they are supposed to last under those conditions, but I ate a set of brand new pads in one weekend.

I would buy another set without hesitation for a car seeing mostly street and occasional track use.

 

+1

I have the Akebono's as well and am very happy with them. I did a ton of research on ceramic brakes before I selected those, and I found them to be the best in terms of their friction coefficient at "normal" temperatures.

Let's be honest, most people don't ever get the brakes hot enough to get into the sweet spot on EBC Yellows or Porterfield pads. So those are basically a waste of money right from the get-go, since 3/4ths of the time I think you wouldn't have them at the right temps and would actually notice REDUCED performance as compared to stock.

EBC Reds and Akebono's are the two I liked the best, because they don't have to be warm to perform well. Especially with the Akebono's, they have a higher friction coefficient than the stock pagids even when dead cold. The EBC Red's have to warm up a little, but they too have a higher friction coefficient than stock even at normal temperatures. The tradeoff for better cold performance is fade that comes on quicker at higher temps, so if you do road courses or something, then you probably should stick with Yellows or Porterfields.

All of them make 90% less dust than the stock pads, which is what I was mainly concerned with.

 

I can tell you the Akebono's bite very well, cold or hot. I'm not sure how they are on a road course, because I wouldn't track a 4700lb car in the first place. You really need something like a boxster or a miata, you'll be a lot faster and have a whole lot more fun...

But as to the brakes, I like the Akeys...

 

And yet you claim that Brembo doesn't make our brakes, which would be news to Brembo.

Oh and before you start going on how you know better an engineer at Brembo motorsports suggests that you watch "Megaworld:Italy" where the president of Brembo says that they make the brakes for MB....

 

I use porterfield rs-4 on my Brembo GTs.
Very happy with them. Very low dust.

Got them directly from Porterfield.