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VRP825 + Brabus 6.3S Biturbo = 1000HP+ ?

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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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VRP825 + Brabus 6.3S Biturbo = 1000HP+ ?

I think this would be the ultimate configuration for a V12 biturbo Benz...

Take the Brabus 6.3S Biturbo:




And add the VRP825 package to it (since Brabus uses stock IC's and airboxes)



Brabus stock figures:

Displacement cm3 6233
Bore/stroke mm 83 / 96
Compression ratio 9,0 : 1
Torque Nm 1320 Nm (limited at 1100 Nm electronically) at min-1 from 2.100
Power output kW/PS 537 / 730 at min-1 5.100
Performance: Acceleration 0-100 km/h s 4,0*
Top speed Vmax: over 300 km/h

Power enhancement by displacement enlargement up to 6.3 liters by use of a special crank shaft, piston rod and enlarged bore with appropriate pistons. The suction and the outlet section of both 3-ventile-cylinder heads are flow-optimized and finetuned with two special camshafts according to the displacement. The modification is completed by a back pressure lowering metal-catalytic converter (four monoliths with a full OBD II suitability). Furthermore a special exhaust gas turbocharger is built in with a more effective intercooler.
http://www.brabus.com/en/deliver.php...rbo%20S-EN.pdf
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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Translating those values the motor puts out 973ft-lb (limited to 811) torque and 720HP at the crank.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 03:08 AM
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Translating those values the motor puts out 973ft-lb (limited to 811) torque and 720HP at the crank.

yeah except 2 very big problems with that,,
1000 hp is uncontrolable in the Mercedes and too much power,,

1- TOP gear and 5th Gear and like 2 other mags all tested the 800 hp
BRABUS cars, on a track like the SL 65 brabus and even though the brabus was like 850 hp and they had to reduce it because it was squirily and went all over the place.. way too much power,, for the traction control and computers
and the tires,, and suspension to handle..

the car did a slower lap that a BMW M3 and many other cars becuase it had too much power and was sliding all over the place on the track

the STIG even said is handles like crap..

brabus has since detuned it to like 700 hp,,

2 the MB transmission cannot handle much more than like 750 FT torque.
without a total rebuild.. which is why they detune their highest torque cars... MB could easily build 1000 hp cars but they dont cause they know it makes little difference on the track,,


if you look at the GERMAN racing DTM circut,, where MB races most and wins the most,, along with AUDI,, the cars are limited to 400 hp,,
yet will beat a 800 hp mercedes around the track everytime..
because they are light, and the have great suspensions..and can handle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ucj9...eature=related

in the above video you can see a 400 hp DTM car blow away a 520- Hp
AMG car on the track by some 22 seconds..

seen the same thing myself on tracks, with 650 hp cars getting whomped by LOTUS and other cars with 300 hp..

unless you doing 1/4 mile draggs,, HP is not everything..
still it is fun to have alot..
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 03:56 AM
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by stormy....... 2 the MB transmission cannot handle much more than like 750 FT torque.
without a total rebuild.. which is why they detune their highest torque cars...
Well you better tell Marko's CL65 VRP825 w/912 RWTO on stock tranny it can't be done lol..
Also Chris isn't talking about tracking a 1000HP Benz, only the type measured in 1/4's and raping the Asphalt from any paved surface

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