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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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Why are headers so much $$?

I have been in the performance industry for 15 years and a new 06 E55 owner.
I am confused on header pricing. I can get Corvette/GT500 stainless headers including Jet hot coating for 1/2 the price of E55 headers. Is it just that because it is Mercedes name is attached to it? I can get custom stainless headers made for $3k at several custom turbo shops and seems way overpriced.
Just curious....

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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by madgoat
I have been in the performance industry for 15 years and a new 06 E55 owner.
I am confused on header pricing. I can get Corvette/GT500 stainless headers including Jet hot coating for 1/2 the price of E55 headers. Is it just that because it is Mercedes name is attached to it? I can get custom stainless headers made for $3k at several custom turbo shops and seems way overpriced.
Just curious....
In a word "YES"

Okay, it also has to do with supply and demand. For every 1 MB header that is sold, there is probably 10-20 corvette headers sold. Or at least that is what most of the fabbers around here say.

By the way, I agree fully with you as I have had custom 1 off headers made for my toys a heck of alot cheaper as well

See yeah

PS: If you REALLY want a price shock check out MHP prices for tunes
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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That would be awesome!
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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This is amazing, I to just bought a E55 and coming from a srt4 I am vary familure with the diabloSport. The prices for a tune or anything else is just crazy. This is the singel best news I have heard sine I got the car. I'll pm you for any more details.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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Well if that didn't just wake up the neighborhood, I don't know what will...

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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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more tuners are lower prices is always welcome...
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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My little brother has an SRT-4 and he uses a Diablosport Predator handheld tuner. Is that your company or do you just resell the handheld? It would be really cool if one could be developed and sold for the E55 for around the same price as the SRT-4 tuner . He only paid around three bills for it I agree that everything for the E55 is so expensive. When I started modifying my cars, I bought headers for my MX-6 and GTP. Added together, they both cost less than the price of any aftermarket E55 headers. Some E55s are getting old and many owners are second/third generation owners that did not pay the original 80-100K price tag. A lot of us are not filthy rich, but we're not afraid to modify our cars.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
more tuners are lower prices is always welcome...

Or they just all use the same excuse and keep the price high because it is the standard for AMGs.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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If you think the headers are expensive now, then you should've seen the prices when they first came out Now those were scary times
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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Well if that didn't just wake up the neighborhood, I don't know what will...

what was said.... i must have missed it?
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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what was said.... i must have missed it?
Me too...... I'd like to know Can someone PM it to me?
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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Me too...... I'd like to know Can someone PM it to me?
me too....
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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there was talk of Diablosport making a hand held tuner for are cars..
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MB_Forever
Me too...... I'd like to know Can someone PM it to me?
If what I remember reading was right....wasn't bad, seems kind of silly
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RenntechE55
there was talk of Diablosport making a hand held tuner for are cars..
What he said^
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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Yeah - didn't think it was bad at all, especially given the borderline "group buy" threads that get started around here solely created to drum up business for MBW non-vendors, and which seem to be a direct violation but yet remain (perhaps they're viewed as too harmless to deal with)?

OP simply mentioned that *allegedly* Diablosport is working on a handheld tuner for BMW and MB, that should go for a few hundred bucks and be available "next year" - given the vague generalities of the post, and the fact that a LOT of aftermarket "vaporware" comes and goes without seeing the light of day, I don't get why a moderator deemed the information a violation and "deletion-worthy" - perhaps whichever moderator chose to remove the information can chime in with a valid reason.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:39 PM
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Happens all the time here, the vendors do pay the bills on this forum. Well- they do on every forum- but this is the only one that I've seen taht actually deletes ANYTHING the vendors don't like or report.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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The reason why headers are so expensive is... Most headers are small production runs. when you think about Vette's and mustangs or even shopping at Costco. Buying in bulk i will most always lower the price. There are lots of Mustangs and Vettes out there versus the small amount of AMG's.

Small production runs are not very cost effective or lucrative for fabricators and its labor intensive. Jigs have to made and a whole bunch or R&D. Now doing this for the maybe 20 sets or so of AMG headers isnt that profitable when compared to the man hours it takes to make them.

Also Alot of headers for large production runs are sent over sea's to be duped for a much lesser cost. I deal alot with over sea's vendors in my family business and If I want 20 items made they wouldn't do it. Now if I wanted 200 or 500 items then they would do it pending on what it is.

If Mercedes were a dime a dozen like Vette's and mustangs in term or production numbers parts would be cheaper and their would be a lot of choices in terms of headers for your car.
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Originally Posted by RenntechE55
there was talk of Diablosport making a hand held tuner for are cars..
i wonder if they still have my emails asking for this for the last 2yrs???
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 11:23 PM
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i wonder if they still have my emails asking for this for the last 2yrs???
How do you have so many secret deals going on with Corsa and Diablosport lol
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 03:35 AM
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How do you have so many secret deals going on with Corsa and Diablosport lol
lol, not secret deals...just trying to stay ahead of the curve (actually just impatient waiting for mb tuners to catch up with the rest of the world).
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A friend sent me these photos of a E63, it had custom headers made (shorties or midlength?), x-pipe, and magnaflow mufflers.....don't know whose car it was, but I thought you guys might like to see some custom work and pictures are always fun...
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Originally Posted by RenntechE55
there was talk of Diablosport making a hand held tuner for are cars..

This marks the death of these absurd pricing from MB Vendors. I hope more domestic tuners get involved in the MB world.
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
more tuners are lower prices is always welcome...
Evidently not, since the mods deleted the post almost as soon as it was written...
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