335i (jb3 tune) vs CLS55
07-16-2009, 05:55 PM
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Honestly, never had the car dynoed or tracked, since its kind of not my thing, but people with the same exact mods on race gas on the new maps made upwards of 440whp/wtq.
I really just judge my power and strength against other cars. Like E55's, IS-F, C/E 63's, 997TT, GTO 6.0, Evo's (20G) and Sti's (green or red labels) with bigger turbos..........just a few of people I have raced and normally it has resulted in me winning, except for the 997TT, which I am under the impression he was tuned (but I wasn't on race gas/map at the time).............
I really just judge my power and strength against other cars. Like E55's, IS-F, C/E 63's, 997TT, GTO 6.0, Evo's (20G) and Sti's (green or red labels) with bigger turbos..........just a few of people I have raced and normally it has resulted in me winning, except for the 997TT, which I am under the impression he was tuned (but I wasn't on race gas/map at the time).............
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07-16-2009, 06:02 PM
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When I raced you I had, Dual Cone Intake, Downpipes, FMIC and race gas/map, everything else stock (no wieght reduction). That was a long time ago inrelation to the amount of work Terry has put into the tune. We ran i thought in the end of Fall of last year? So the maps Terry has come up with now pull fully to redline for the most part and much more powerful with a bigger power band.
I would say at the time we raced I was very close or just around 390-400whp if I was lucky. But things have definitely taken off lately for our cars (335i's).
I should be getting the new board within the next week or so from Terry which is "unlocked", pretty much unknown power levels lol. Hotrod182 above me has been running that for quite a while now, probably one of the first beta testers for it and he runs the 1/4 at 11.7 at like 120mph with JUST a tune and DR's and some weight reduction.
I would say at the time we raced I was very close or just around 390-400whp if I was lucky. But things have definitely taken off lately for our cars (335i's).
I should be getting the new board within the next week or so from Terry which is "unlocked", pretty much unknown power levels lol. Hotrod182 above me has been running that for quite a while now, probably one of the first beta testers for it and he runs the 1/4 at 11.7 at like 120mph with JUST a tune and DR's and some weight reduction.
07-16-2009, 06:09 PM
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When I raced you I had, Dual Cone Intake, Downpipes, FMIC and race gas/map, everything else stock (no wieght reduction). That was a long time ago inrelation to the amount of work Terry has put into the tune. We ran i thought in the end of Fall of last year? So the maps Terry has come up with now pull fully to redline for the most part and much more powerful with a bigger power band.
I would say at the time we raced I was very close or just around 390-400whp if I was lucky. But things have definitely taken off lately for our cars (335i's).
I should be getting the new board within the next week or so from Terry which is "unlocked", pretty much unknown power levels lol. Hotrod182 above me has been running that for quite a while now, probably one of the first beta testers for it and he runs the 1/4 at 11.7 at like 120mph with JUST a tune and DR's and some weight reduction.
I would say at the time we raced I was very close or just around 390-400whp if I was lucky. But things have definitely taken off lately for our cars (335i's).
I should be getting the new board within the next week or so from Terry which is "unlocked", pretty much unknown power levels lol. Hotrod182 above me has been running that for quite a while now, probably one of the first beta testers for it and he runs the 1/4 at 11.7 at like 120mph with JUST a tune and DR's and some weight reduction.
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07-16-2009, 06:11 PM
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My appointment for my car is Tuesday morning, they are going to check the fuel pump and see what the Vanos problems I have are, hopefully by next weekend I will be ready to rock and have the new board in.
07-16-2009, 06:22 PM
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that sounds funny everytime I hear it... There are quite a few people with a jb3 "beta" map or "turbo melter map" these days. Been around for quite sometime now... Pump gas and race gas tunes are worlds apart from what I've seen.
07-16-2009, 08:49 PM
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Now to address some "other" talk.
Yes i am 1000% sure it was a CLS55AMG, Quad exhaust, big DIFF under the car, Kompressor badges on the side, which you can SEE in the video, and you can DEF see the AMG big silver brakes in the rear wheel! Um and the SUPERCHARGER sound was damn loud!!! when he was tailgating me!
I know my AMG's, like E55AMGGGG04 said, i am his cuzin, i know how they sound and etc.
I cant believe some of you actually think it wasnt a AMG... cls550? i would rape those.
The exhaust and gearing alone should tell the story, if not check the badges in the video and the brakes.
Do i need the passenger in the car with me to come on here hahaha.
Yes i am 1000% sure it was a CLS55AMG, Quad exhaust, big DIFF under the car, Kompressor badges on the side, which you can SEE in the video, and you can DEF see the AMG big silver brakes in the rear wheel! Um and the SUPERCHARGER sound was damn loud!!! when he was tailgating me!
I know my AMG's, like E55AMGGGG04 said, i am his cuzin, i know how they sound and etc.
I cant believe some of you actually think it wasnt a AMG... cls550? i would rape those.
The exhaust and gearing alone should tell the story, if not check the badges in the video and the brakes.
Do i need the passenger in the car with me to come on here hahaha.
07-16-2009, 08:51 PM
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Also, I took my traction off, you can hear me spin in the video that is why i lost ground in the start
I cant tell if the CLS had his traction on or off, he chirped a little, but listen to the Video you CANNOT hear any ESP intervention at all, just smooth revving in first. he slowly rolled out and got on it WOT.
From what i know, my cuzin E55 loves to be launched with ESP on, a small roll before going WOT seems to be the magic to his launch.
I cant tell if the CLS had his traction on or off, he chirped a little, but listen to the Video you CANNOT hear any ESP intervention at all, just smooth revving in first. he slowly rolled out and got on it WOT.
From what i know, my cuzin E55 loves to be launched with ESP on, a small roll before going WOT seems to be the magic to his launch.
07-16-2009, 08:52 PM
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Also, I took my traction off, you can hear me spin in the video that is why i lost ground in the start
I cant tell if the CLS had his traction on or off, he chirped a little, but listen to the Video you can hear any ESP intervention at all, just smooth revving in first.
From what i know, my cuzin E55 loves to be launched with ESP on, a small roll before going WOT seems to be the magic to his launch.
I cant tell if the CLS had his traction on or off, he chirped a little, but listen to the Video you can hear any ESP intervention at all, just smooth revving in first.
From what i know, my cuzin E55 loves to be launched with ESP on, a small roll before going WOT seems to be the magic to his launch.
07-16-2009, 09:48 PM
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That 335 is fast no doubt. Trapping 115+ is no joke.
I have one question maybe you guys can answer. What kinda of wheels was the CLS running? From the video it looks like 20" SLR type rims. Now we all know what 20" rims do for performance.
Not trying to start any wars here just some food for taught.
I have one question maybe you guys can answer. What kinda of wheels was the CLS running? From the video it looks like 20" SLR type rims. Now we all know what 20" rims do for performance.
Not trying to start any wars here just some food for taught.
07-16-2009, 09:52 PM
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When i talked to the guy he said lorinser rims, i think 18 or 19" not sure if they were reps, i think he might of mentioned they were replicas.
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07-16-2009, 09:54 PM
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That 335 is fast no doubt. Trapping 115+ is no joke.
I have one question maybe you guys can answer. What kinda of wheels was the CLS running? From the video it looks like 20" SLR type rims. Now we all know what 20" rims do for performance.
Not trying to start any wars here just some food for taught.
I have one question maybe you guys can answer. What kinda of wheels was the CLS running? From the video it looks like 20" SLR type rims. Now we all know what 20" rims do for performance.
Not trying to start any wars here just some food for taught.
07-16-2009, 10:15 PM
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Thats a huge lost but if the rims were 18's or 19's then that end than.
07-16-2009, 10:33 PM
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Great run. I hope I don't run into you on the streets, I may not fair to well.
07-16-2009, 10:56 PM
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Hey you might just run into us. We are going to get together one of these weekends if you want to come. You don't have to race but you'll get to see some good ones. We already have 2 modded 335's, GTR, 2 C63's, my E55, maybe a CLS55. Let me know your in L.I, the lie is like 2 blocks from my house.
07-17-2009, 01:11 AM
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07-17-2009, 08:56 AM
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I have a modded 135i in my stable with the E55. It is only 400HP and 420ft Lbs at the crank but is devastating quick and will roast most things on the road.
This being said, the 55 is still faster with the traction control off but not by much. If you lined the two up, the 55 would probably win 9 out of 10 runs. With the traction control on, it is good bye E55.
The 335 is a monster with mods and like the E55, develops massive torque out of the hole. This is why a built the 135, I wanted a beast that could handle and stop as hard as it pulled.
This being said, the 55 is still faster with the traction control off but not by much. If you lined the two up, the 55 would probably win 9 out of 10 runs. With the traction control on, it is good bye E55.
The 335 is a monster with mods and like the E55, develops massive torque out of the hole. This is why a built the 135, I wanted a beast that could handle and stop as hard as it pulled.
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I find it funny how a couple of us MB owners are actually backing up the 335'ers... A lot of the AMG crowd here live in a tiny bubble, get out their n' race a few of these modded 335's then toss your hat in the ring. I've ran a few J3/race-map-gas DP's IC etc modded 335's they're NO joke give credit where it's due
Thank you kind sir.P.s. im suppose to be putting out around 425 to the crank.
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Hey you might just run into us. We are going to get together one of these weekends if you want to come. You don't have to race but you'll get to see some good ones. We already have 2 modded 335's, GTR, 2 C63's, my E55, maybe a CLS55. Let me know your in L.I, the lie is like 2 blocks from my house.
