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ESP Question for DR users
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ESP Question for DR users
I know this discussion has been brought up several times but some time has passed and I'm hoping for some new input.
I've been going back and forth trying to decide if I should turn off my ESP and power brake during my runs. So far the method that's working best for me is rolling straight off idle and trusting my drags will stick. To date I have 2 high 1.6's and several 1.7's with this method but I'm looking for low to mid 1.6's to get me into the 10's. All though this past weekend on my very first pass at Fontana I powered braked to 1000 rpm and got 1.800. This was my 2nd best 60' time of the day with the best at 1.788. The 1.788 was done using my normal method as I abandoned the power braking after what I thought to be a not so good method. After looking back I should have tried ESP off and power braking. What do you guys suggest or think about ESP off and power braking? From what I've read power braking past 1200 RPM causes the computer to go funny.
I've been going back and forth trying to decide if I should turn off my ESP and power brake during my runs. So far the method that's working best for me is rolling straight off idle and trusting my drags will stick. To date I have 2 high 1.6's and several 1.7's with this method but I'm looking for low to mid 1.6's to get me into the 10's. All though this past weekend on my very first pass at Fontana I powered braked to 1000 rpm and got 1.800. This was my 2nd best 60' time of the day with the best at 1.788. The 1.788 was done using my normal method as I abandoned the power braking after what I thought to be a not so good method. After looking back I should have tried ESP off and power braking. What do you guys suggest or think about ESP off and power braking? From what I've read power braking past 1200 RPM causes the computer to go funny.
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i usually take out the slack by bringing the rpms to a 1000, let go off the brake and roll into full throttle. i don't think thats the best method but not doing that caused me to have a lot of spin on street tires.
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If the ESP is on and it comes on during your launch, you spun and the run is garbage. If it is off and you spin, the run is garbage. Either way the run is pretty much over. If you're spinning hard and relying on the ESP, you're still going to get a crappy 60'. I think the key is figuring out how to launch/roll into the throttle to spin maybe a tiny bit as you feed the power in, but not blow the tires off. Best bet is of course DR's and dead-hooking, but that doesn't always happen.
I'm njust very wary of ESP, because if the car is spinning hard enough to activate it, power is pulled wayyy back and fed in slowly, at least that's how it feels to me. It is not a seamless "pull just enough out to stop the spinning".
I'm njust very wary of ESP, because if the car is spinning hard enough to activate it, power is pulled wayyy back and fed in slowly, at least that's how it feels to me. It is not a seamless "pull just enough out to stop the spinning".
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Curious, I recently dynoed & had the 600 in Dyno-mode
Really wanted to rip around a bit in Dyno-mode (Love drifting, but w/out tune even w/esp off it quickly interrupts my fun) I read here that any prolonged actual street driving in Dyno-mode could hurt the vehicle? I tend to think this is 
since running on dyno machine for 45-60 min would be nearly the same abuse? 
since running on dyno machine for 45-60 min would be nearly the same abuse?
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i think the best method is ESP off hitting padel half way and when you reach 30 - 35km hit it full throttle
very nice jump without lossing power or spinning tires.
try it and let me know
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very nice jump without lossing power or spinning tires.
try it and let me know
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ESP off, left foot on brake and hold about 900rpm. Then just swap feet , as they say. Let off brake and at the same time,,, smash the gas!! This helps to flash the converter a little more and develope a little more off the line Torque.
What tires you running and what pressure? Can not say enough about tire pressure and proper warm up.
Try and race early, before ricers drag water all over the line..
Not sure how the E class adjust suspension but I run with my as high up as it will go. This helps distribute weight to the rear on the launch..
A minus 1000 DA and you are there, with room to spare.. Watch the weather and get your launchplan down.
What tires you running and what pressure? Can not say enough about tire pressure and proper warm up.
Try and race early, before ricers drag water all over the line..
Not sure how the E class adjust suspension but I run with my as high up as it will go. This helps distribute weight to the rear on the launch..
A minus 1000 DA and you are there, with room to spare..
Watch the weather and get your launchplan down.
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I'm running M/T's Street Radial II 265-40-18 at 23 psi.
Haha....no doubt about the ricers leaving water trails all the way up to the starting line. On my very last pass of the day a mustang did that exact same thing...damn! Oh well, these are the things that make track days interesting.
I'm not taking any chance of not getting into the 10's at Famoso. Long Tube headers are going on as I believe I'll gain some substantial power with them easily letting me hit my mark. I also have a couple of other things that will help me achieve my goal.
Haha....no doubt about the ricers leaving water trails all the way up to the starting line. On my very last pass of the day a mustang did that exact same thing...damn! Oh well, these are the things that make track days interesting.
I'm not taking any chance of not getting into the 10's at Famoso. Long Tube headers are going on as I believe I'll gain some substantial power with them easily letting me hit my mark. I also have a couple of other things that will help me achieve my goal.
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I agree with Mikey, If your tires hook there is no need to be in dyno-mode. I happen to race in Dyno mode only because my C55's ESP blocks burnouts if i'm not in dyno mode. Make sure when you do a burn out you get both wheels spinning. If only one is getting hot that is not a good thing.
I tend to to very long burnouts. My basic rule of thumb is.. My tires should be smoking still when i pull up to the tree. there is a lot more to it than that. You have got to pick a good line. if your off my 6 inches that could be the difference between wheel spin and hooking up.
So basically you want to put your rear tires is someone tire marks at the tree. Your tires will be hot enough from your burnout to melt and bond with a previous racers wheel spin marks at the tree. Its kinda like your rear tires are now glued to the track from the rubber you have picked up from the burnout and the VHT on the track.
Here is a video of my race when only one wheel is spinning during a burnout. It resulted in mega wheel spin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGyquFcHXtQ
here is a video with two wheels spinning and long burnout. The end results are night and day. 1.567 60ft.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nryISWXl2nM
I tend to to very long burnouts. My basic rule of thumb is.. My tires should be smoking still when i pull up to the tree. there is a lot more to it than that. You have got to pick a good line. if your off my 6 inches that could be the difference between wheel spin and hooking up.
So basically you want to put your rear tires is someone tire marks at the tree. Your tires will be hot enough from your burnout to melt and bond with a previous racers wheel spin marks at the tree. Its kinda like your rear tires are now glued to the track from the rubber you have picked up from the burnout and the VHT on the track.
Here is a video of my race when only one wheel is spinning during a burnout. It resulted in mega wheel spin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGyquFcHXtQ
here is a video with two wheels spinning and long burnout. The end results are night and day. 1.567 60ft.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nryISWXl2nM
