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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 04:01 AM
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Do aftermarket 200 Cell race cats w/secondaries removed throw Cel error codes?

I.E. ONLY running Primaries using 200 cell cats, will error codes be eradicated w/moving sensors further dwn after cat?

Thank you for your answers gents

This will possibly be done to my SL600!

More importantly will 200 Cell metal cats pass stringent CA Smog?

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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 05:25 AM
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Sean, you only have one set of cats, the ones that are righ off the turbos built into the downpipes. I put 100cel metal cats in and it didnt respond well for some reason. It was total seat of pants so no dyno numbers, i eventually just removed them entirely. If I were you get a whole new downpipe made in 3" with no cats, that way you can save your factory stuff intact for smog testing.
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Sean:

200 cell will be bordeline on smog. You might or might not have CEL, some ECU revisions are touchier than others. Do not know why.

As far as power, maybe 10-15RWHP. Turbos hate any backprssure right behind them.

Do the tune............
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Sean, you only have one set of cats, the ones that are righ off the turbos built into the downpipes. I put 100cel metal cats in and it didnt respond well for some reason. It was total seat of pants so no dyno numbers, i eventually just removed them entirely. If I were you get a whole new downpipe made in 3" with no cats, that way you can save your factory stuff intact for smog testing.
Thanks for the input Jason! So you're runnin' catless now? (any sound clips?) Problem, we Southern CA guys are subject to SMOG **** random roadside sniffers, I have to replace w/some sort of Cats...

I have a 9am appt Tues to see what can be done

(I know SL only has primary cat's, but posting in the Hotrod E55 section they have 4 as you already know, just trying to tailor the Q correctly)

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Originally Posted by Vadim @ FD
Sean:

200 cell will be bordeline on smog. You might or might not have CEL, some ECU revisions are touchier than others. Do not know why.

As far as power, maybe 10-15RWHP. Turbos hate any backprssure right behind them.

Do the tune............
Thank's Vadim, Tune going in by Powerchip (Jeremy Dyno-tune) early Sept. My thoughts on Cats would hopefully be to do DP's then extend o2 sensors further dwn to mate up to some 200-250 Cell Metal-cats, do you sell them separately?

PS..Sorry for jumping on you over Busa's S65 thread, I know you're a good guy, I just got caught up in the chatter

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I was under the impression that no race cat will pass California smog and I thought that was why most race cats state that they're legal in 49 states
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