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I have a kit of Phenolic Heat Spacers with two sets of original oem gaskets top & bottom and longer bolts for the Air Intakes. Never installed that I may sell... Best regards, Joseph
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Really? We are talking the spacers that involve the removal of the supercharger to install right? Not the ones that go under the surge tank? I dont have either one, just wondering though.
I'm having a hard time wondering why they would be so detrimental. Very interesting stuff to say the least.
I'm having a hard time wondering why they would be so detrimental. Very interesting stuff to say the least.
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Really? We are talking the spacers that involve the removal of the supercharger to install right? Not the ones that go under the surge tank? I dont have either one, just wondering though.
I'm having a hard time wondering why they would be so detrimental. Very interesting stuff to say the least.
I'm having a hard time wondering why they would be so detrimental. Very interesting stuff to say the least.
The problem is that some people have gone as far as putting spacers for the blower. THAT is what I'm sayin is the problem. Do that and your motor will go ka-boom.
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Benzoboi I am kind of confused.
there are 2 spacers ones that go between the surge tanks and the s/c, and the opes that go between the tubes on the side of s/c and the engine block.
I assume you are referring to the second one i mentioned that causes the problem. Or is there a 3 set that goes some where else?
there are 2 spacers ones that go between the surge tanks and the s/c, and the opes that go between the tubes on the side of s/c and the engine block.
I assume you are referring to the second one i mentioned that causes the problem. Or is there a 3 set that goes some where else?
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The thermal spacers that we use are for the intake manifold to the head, under the air distribution tanks and the throttle body housing and, like Sun said, they do help with the IAT's but they work their best(most benefit) on HIGHLY MODIFIED cars.
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The phenolic spacers that the tuners are selling these days are all the ones for the intake manifold. Those help out alot by dropping IAT's. I have them on my car also.
The problem is that some people have gone as far as putting spacers for the blower. THAT is what I'm sayin is the problem. Do that and your motor will go ka-boom.
The problem is that some people have gone as far as putting spacers for the blower. THAT is what I'm sayin is the problem. Do that and your motor will go ka-boom.
I tell you what though, If I do go with a spacer, its not gong to be the ones that go under the blower after reading thread.
That is very good info to know
You can feel good if its true, that you may have saved someone a motor.
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Benzoboi I am kind of confused.
there are 2 spacers ones that go between the surge tanks and the s/c, and the opes that go between the tubes on the side of s/c and the engine block.
I assume you are referring to the second one i mentioned that causes the problem. Or is there a 3 set that goes some where else?
there are 2 spacers ones that go between the surge tanks and the s/c, and the opes that go between the tubes on the side of s/c and the engine block.
I assume you are referring to the second one i mentioned that causes the problem. Or is there a 3 set that goes some where else?
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i installed 4 spacers which 2 comes up the S/C and 2 under it. they are for mainfold ^_^
and they do help a lot in our weather here.
well, on DAS, S/C Temp now shows are 40C and Engine oil Temp is 65C.
and IAT i didnt check,
say by the way. do any of you guys know how to show it on the A/C screen.
i tried all the ways but no use. such as (AC off 10 seconds) ( AUTO , driver side ) , etc
what will it be for 2005 models ??
and they do help a lot in our weather here.
well, on DAS, S/C Temp now shows are 40C and Engine oil Temp is 65C.
and IAT i didnt check,
say by the way. do any of you guys know how to show it on the A/C screen.
i tried all the ways but no use. such as (AC off 10 seconds) ( AUTO , driver side ) , etc
what will it be for 2005 models ??
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The phenolic spacers that the tuners are selling these days are all the ones for the intake manifold. Those help out alot by dropping IAT's. I have them on my car also.
The problem is that some people have gone as far as putting spacers for the blower. THAT is what I'm sayin is the problem. Do that and your motor will go ka-boom.
The problem is that some people have gone as far as putting spacers for the blower. THAT is what I'm sayin is the problem. Do that and your motor will go ka-boom.
I have had my phenolics on for a few years and no problems....
The intake section is part of the S/C housing. My Phenolics sit in between this housing and the cylinder inlets. What S/C spacers do you mean?
The blower sits higher since the whole housing is higher ... so I guess it is a type of S/C spacer ... getting the S/C belt on is much more difficult too btw.
I dont know if these things do anything or not in terms of heat dissapation - but one thing I don't like is there is a slightly longer inlet tract to the cylinder now... so boost can drop off slightly in this area where the volume has become that fraction larger. Also if they don't fit flush in line with the inlet walls (exactly) they can cause turbulence too... which I imagine is not a good thing either. I would honestly say given what has been said ... don't waste your time fitting them.
Also adding phenolics to the surge tanks is going to do bagel in my opinion.....
More info as to why the engine should blow because of this though would be very interesting!!!!
Last edited by stevebez; Oct 6, 2009 at 02:04 PM.
