Full Throttle

Got a link?

Dads C63

itsmeek - I said with "some" of the quickest. There are extreme's in every group and 10's is extreme and I will NOT try to compare to those guys. Mine is keeping up with "most" for now. Its a full interior daily driver and runs very good. I have not had the advantage of an ATCO, MIR, or Famosa track conditions but if I can run mid 11's down here in Florida the car "should" run low 11's in great weather conditions. I believe low 11's is running with "most" of the "55" guys. For an NA car they are great cars. No slam on the VERY FAST "55" list. Those are incredible cars!! Be safe!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El7XlHW43MA
That was run two weeks ago in Florida.

Not gonna start an argument and a stroker kit is complicated but its gonna make a great car! I love FI also so lets not argue about that.

Yacht Master

"TT55" savings account opened, Merry Christmas!!!!!

Full Throttle

So you have no tangible proof to your claims, you're just running your mouth.

Dads C63

Full throttle - added the link just for you.
11.45 is quick for Florida.

itsmeek

Twin turbos just about 100% eliminate lag, that's what they're for. Did you ever drive the cayenne?

itsmeek

There is no argument- you stated something but you have no proof to back it. "shoulda coulda woulda" is bs- I have a kompressor and love it but i'm POSITIVE that turbo will be a MUCH better platform. I'm not hating on turbo platforms just because they will be better than my car from a power/modding standpoint. I look forward to it. I also- am not trying to start an argument, just stating facts. Stroker kits are HEAVY mods, STROKE a 55k to +.7 liters and you will have an entirely different animal as well.

Dads C63

itsmeek - my bad, I thought under mid 11's was pretty fast, even for a "55" series. NM

Where's the "55" series guys?

6speed member's other cars:

3.53 - Underground / TT Gallardo / 2-shifts
4.09 - Acicchelli / TT Gallardo / 1 shift
4.52 - jbsteven / SC&TT Ford GT 994 rwhp / 1 shift
4.53 - HoustonT / 880 rwhp Supra / 1 shift
4.87 - Oz / Supra / 1 shift
5.14 - Hllywood / TT Viper / 93 octane/ 2 shifts
5.27 – Lil Powell / C5 Vette with big motor and NOS
5.74 - Divexxtreme / Supercharged C6 Z06 / 1 shift
5.86 - RaceMX-M3 / Turbocharged E46 M3 / 1 shift
5.88 - Blacksheep / Supercharged C6 Z51 Corvette / 1 shift
6.65 - Acicchelli / Renntech SLR
6.89 - Vrybad / C5 Z06TT (APS Turbo, no cats, stock muffler, 573 rwhp @ 9.5 psi) / 1 shift
7.24 - Acicchelli / Stock SLR
7.48 - Acicchelli / Renntech SL65 AMG
7.59 - Blacksheep / C6 Corvette Z51 (heads/cam, 484 rwhp) / 2 shifts
7.74 - HoustonT / GT-R / 640 HP (downpipes, y-pipe, BC, hard IC pipes, custom tune)
7.85 - Acicchelli / Stock LP640 / 2 shifts
7.86 - Divexxtreme / Stock C6 Z06 / 2-shifts
8.24 - DrivenAgain / CL600 AMG
8.45 - TMC CL65 / Kleeman CL65
8.46 - Dads C63 / Bolt-On C63 AMG
8.59 - Dr Jitsu / Supercharged M3 / 1 shift
8.67 - DLSJ5 / Supercharged E46 M3 SMG / 2 shifts
9.62 - M6koo / M6 SMG (intake, exhaust, pulley, tune) / 2-shifts
9.92 - Byzantine / '06 Gallardo 6-MT, 2-shifts
10.13- Acicchelli / Stock F430 / 3-shifts
10.71- DLSJ5 / Bolt-On E92 M3 DCT / 3 shifts
10.72- Acicchelli / Cayenne Turbo S GT700
10.93- Acicchelli / Stock Mercedes E63 / Auto
10.97- WK446 / Nissan GT-R with updated Launch Control firmware
11.81- HoustonT / Stock Lexus IS-F / Sequential
13.77- Acicchelli / Bentley GTC / Auto
14.39- Acicchelli / Stock Mercedes ML63 / Auto

The "63" series motor is a great motor and those of us that have them should be glad!!

Full Throttle

A properly setup and modded K55 will bury a similar N/A 63 this is not even debatable.

itsmeek

It IS fast- compared to stock, my e55 is unmodded and you would probably hand me my ***. On the other hand I have a 2.0 liter 1996 mitsubishi w/less than $5k in mods running very low 10's (and tadaaaaaaa! it's reliable because, I'm not an 18 yr old kid throwing on crap parts). But we're talking modified and potential here. To be honest with you, I would take a 3.5 liter twin turbo c class over my e55 if it were available..

FT- I saw a car that looks ALMOST exactly like yours last week driven by some asian dude that was PIMPING like no tomorrow. Complete w/AMG badges and wheels but still retaining the cls550 or was it 500??? badge as well.

What is that list you posted saying???

Dads C63

Full throttle - when they run side by side in similar conditions then we can dabate. Until then its key board racing. These cars are fun and I did not intend to get into a long discussion this morning. Enjoy what you have!!

Full Throttle

Its funny you say that, i saw a silver cls500 with full k55 AMG badges even the fender badges in the wrong spot mind you the other day. Asian i am not but my wife is black and Asian.

Full Throttle

All things being equal a vehicle with forced induction will always be quicker and faster. Again this is not even debatable.

itsmeek

What's the point of the 60-130 test again???

Full Throttle

talk about reaching.

bassn_07

DadC63 - Do you have your time slip for your 11.45 run? I'm just curious to know what the DA was during your run. Me personally, I would love to run one of you highly modded C63's to see how I stack up. I would consider my car a highly modded bolt-on E55 just like your C63.

As for 60-130 times....I tried this run only once and spun 50-65 with a passenger and still ran a 8.4 on a incline. I don't have proof of this run because I personally didn't think it was worth talking about.

Edit: You ran in -500 DA and you're talking about Florida conditions? I haven't even ran my car in -500 DA yet but when I do I bet I'll be in the low 10.7's with a good launch. Time will tell.

Forrest Gump 9

You guys need to leave FT alone!!


















He didn't get any all weekend, so please cut him some slack. ; )

Dads C63

I would love to run with you guys sometime!!

bassn_07

Nice run!

I looked it up on Dragtimes.com and it you stated that you race in -494 DA, do you consider that bad conditions? I haven't even race in DA that low here on the West coast.

E55AMGFan

This is wonderful news...once again AMG making sure the 4.4 V8TT that BMW was supposed to put into the M5 doesn't trump it's E-Class AMG. Also if the C-Class AMG model is something like what they did to the C63, tuning galore will opening up. A 5.5 DI V8 TT on a 4 Door Sedan is nuts already, if the new C-Class carries the same engine but "detuned", its off to the races the tuners go similiar to how the 6.2 was unlocked.

stevebez

Bottom line is ...

FI is more efficient - and turbos are more efficient than S/C's.

The lag thing is almost history with Direct injection and Variable turbos a la Porsche.

Talking about Porsche they may have scored a major own goal here with the 997.2 TT. Its a blown version of the 997 3.8 carrera motor (A91 I think), so not the M64 motor from the GT1. All new turbo. No cylinder sleeves, etc etc so modding this unit is going to way more tricky than the trusted and tested M64. Who knows how DI is going to affect things. One major problem with DI is sooty inlet valves as the fuel no longer cleans them out...

Rumours have it that Porsche struggled to get it to 500hp without things going "pop", but this would be highly unusual for Porsche and I would be surprised. We shall see.

So, as a caveat, not all FI cars can handle turning up the wick.

jpohl402

Actually all Turbo Cayenne's DEFINITELY have a lag....

itsmeek

Have driven them- have about the same lag as my e55k does. Now big turbo supras and dsm's have LAG.

Karlson

I am starting to dislike MBWorld for past two weeks, too much bs lately, turbo/supercharged vs NA is so 2003. For each it is own, but with the amount of money that 63 cost to tune, 55 engine is cheaper and you get more out of it.

itsmeek

I don't think it's BS- simple TRUTHFUL discussion imo.