Is the E63 Platform Dying......Dead?
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 4,336
Likes: 8
Porsche 991S, Cayenne S, 1972 BMW 3.0CS E9 Coupe
Is the E63 Platform Dying......Dead?
Now with the new twin turbo AMG motors coming out, is the n/a E63 pretty much dead as far as any more tuning R+D potential? Is what we have now all we're going to get?
I realize there's the C63 but even combined with all the rest of the 6.2 liters, it's still a pretty small market. And the costs compared to FI tuning potential and results is much higher, as we already know.
Andy has said here, well, through somebody else posting for him
, that the ECUs on TT AMGs and the new F10 M5s will be impossible to crack. But I think we all doubt that.
So, is the 6.2 pretty much over with? Or maybe it was never 'there' to begin with
I realize there's the C63 but even combined with all the rest of the 6.2 liters, it's still a pretty small market. And the costs compared to FI tuning potential and results is much higher, as we already know.
Andy has said here, well, through somebody else posting for him
, that the ECUs on TT AMGs and the new F10 M5s will be impossible to crack. But I think we all doubt that.So, is the 6.2 pretty much over with? Or maybe it was never 'there' to begin with
Member
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
From: Philly
205, 211 V8 4M, B7 /RS4, e30 ///M3
i think they just jumped into the 63 to help them see what they can do ofor there first full built motor. now that they see what they have done, and what its capablte of, now its time for the AMG aka THE SKY IS THE LIMIT.. so yea, u had to be wondering when they were gonna slap somethign on with some forced injection. its all with the times. hahaha get it?
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,947
Likes: 8
From: Oklahoma City
2015 AMG C63 S
Are we not still in for a several year wait on the TT? Also, the price tag will be in the buck fifty range. Why not find something that works for this engine and pocket the $$... If we just had a source for long tubes and a tune we would be looking at 40-50 whp gain for a fraction of the cost.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,347
Likes: 1
From: Dallas, TX
2007 E63, 2005 Dodge Ram Hemi
Are we not still in for a several year wait on the TT? Also, the price tag will be in the buck fifty range. Why not find something that works for this engine and pocket the $$... If we just had a source for long tubes and a tune we would be looking at 40-50 whp gain for a fraction of the cost.
Trending Topics
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,024
Likes: 532
From: Alexandria, VA
07 E63 AMG, 10 C63 AMG, 07 E63 Designo, 07 E350, 09 C300, 07 C230
I don't necessarily think the 6.2 platform is dead, hopefully Mercedes will develope it more with a Twin Turbo package for it in the future. Remember that the 6.2 is the power plant in the SLS roadster, and that car just came out. They have converted the 6.2 into a dry sump oiling system, no oil pan like the corvettes. And designed a new air intake system for it as well. So, I still see a developement future for this great engine. What do the rest of you think?
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
Dubai Tuner Gives the Mercedes G-Class An Entirely New Look
Verdad Gallardo
Six Gift Ideas Your AMG Loving Dad or Grad Will Cherish
7 Craziest Things AMG Gas Ever Built
Verdad Gallardo
New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)
Verdad Gallardo
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction
Verdad Gallardo
Super Member
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 846
Likes: 1
From: da long island
1989 Toyota Tercel Coupé
Now with the new twin turbo AMG motors coming out, is the n/a E63 pretty much dead as far as any more tuning R+D potential? Is what we have now all we're going to get?
I realize there's the C63 but even combined with all the rest of the 6.2 liters, it's still a pretty small market. And the costs compared to FI tuning potential and results is much higher, as we already know.
Andy has said here, well, through somebody else posting for him, that the ECUs on TT AMGs and the new F10 M5s will be impossible to crack. But I think we all doubt that.
So, is the 6.2 pretty much over with? Or maybe it was never 'there' to begin with
I realize there's the C63 but even combined with all the rest of the 6.2 liters, it's still a pretty small market. And the costs compared to FI tuning potential and results is much higher, as we already know.
Andy has said here, well, through somebody else posting for him
, that the ECUs on TT AMGs and the new F10 M5s will be impossible to crack. But I think we all doubt that.So, is the 6.2 pretty much over with? Or maybe it was never 'there' to begin with
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,411
Likes: 69
From: Socal, Chino
E55 2006 / CLS55 / S450 / Jag XKR2011
well..... as someone else in the forum posted before, here is the link the number of AMG made for 55 and 63
The 63 platform still too few compare to others, the cost will be Higher.
http://www.topgearage.com/?p=260
The 63 platform still too few compare to others, the cost will be Higher.
http://www.topgearage.com/?p=260
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 463
Likes: 8
From: South Florida
2014 E63, Cobra replica, 68 Camaro, 66 Chevy II SS, Z4 BMW, Honda Element, Birel 125cc Shifter Kart.
Personally, I just can't see the point of modding a naturally aspirated engine unless you're planning on adding forced induction. Long tube headers, pulley's, chips, etc on a 6.3 MIGHT get you 50 hp. Put that same money into a TT or SC car and you'll triple that.
The days of naturally aspirated performance cars is just about over IMO.
The days of naturally aspirated performance cars is just about over IMO.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,146
Likes: 1
From: L.A., CA
'08 M5, '10 Land Cruiser
Will I buy the new M5 in three years when the first model year's been out and road tested? Yeah, almost certainly. But given the vote I'd have preferred to have kept this same engine just bored out to 5.5L, but the environmentalists wouldn't allow for that.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,052
Likes: 2
From: PHX/PIE/OMA ---> Yes, all three
E55 then E63, now back to an E55
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,070
Likes: 1
From: D.C. METRO AREA
Nissan GT-R cobb/midpipe/ic piping/wastegate actuators/tials
Personally, I just can't see the point of modding a naturally aspirated engine unless you're planning on adding forced induction. Long tube headers, pulley's, chips, etc on a 6.3 MIGHT get you 50 hp. Put that same money into a TT or SC car and you'll triple that.
The days of naturally aspirated performance cars is just about over IMO.
The days of naturally aspirated performance cars is just about over IMO.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 9,137
Likes: 4
From: California, USA
E63 P30, CL500 Sport
On another note, please remember that JRcart's car had dymags at the time of that dyno, which was essentially responsible for 25 to 30 rwhp.
Member
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
E63 AMG
My E63 is my daily and a beast at that. I plan on having her for another maybe 2 years... but even at that time there is no way I am paying 100k for the twin turbo. ill wait till it drops in half like my current one did! =)
