STAR lowering q's...
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,261
Likes: 0
From: chicagoland
08 E63
I'm currently lowered through star and I can DEFINITELY see the difference between drivin in Comfort, Sport I, and Sport II. Besides being lowered, I could always press the raise button and the car will go up. If I want to slam it, I'll have it in Sport II. I have been lowered through Star for a good number of years now and haven't had any problems adjusting the height by using Comfort, Sport I, or Sport II. 
Here's an example...
My rear wheel in comfort...
My rear wheel now in Sport II...
Here's an example...
My rear wheel in comfort...
My rear wheel now in Sport II...
my car is pretty slammed and dropped via STAR as well. there is a small difference in the drop b/w comfort and sport modes as Benzoi has said.
regarding those who says that STAR lowering doesn't drop the car too much, u guys need to find a new dealer/tech to do the lowering b/c u can slam the car via STAR if done correctly.
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
From: The Gold Coast, LI, NY
06' E55 AMG
Benzoboi...that's pretty damn low! You mind taking shots of your car in raised mode? How often do you raise the car and throw it back to dropped height? I was wondering if this puts any extra wear on the airmatic system.
Super Moderator
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 11,664
Likes: 3
From: SoCal
W221
Member
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 115
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles
2005 E55
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
From: The Gold Coast, LI, NY
06' E55 AMG
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 7,217
Likes: 6
3-five-five/ TUNDRA/ 07 997 cab
Super Member
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 992
Likes: 2
From: Denver, CO
2008 CLS63 AMG
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction
Verdad Gallardo
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping
Verdad Gallardo
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used
Verdad Gallardo
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 7,217
Likes: 6
3-five-five/ TUNDRA/ 07 997 cab
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
From: The Gold Coast, LI, NY
06' E55 AMG
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 7,217
Likes: 6
3-five-five/ TUNDRA/ 07 997 cab
Junior Member
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
From: Austin, Texas
G55k + Europa G500
So I need some help with adjusting my ride height on my CLS55. I lowered the car through the software. Setting the left front at 2.8 and right front at 2.2. The rear was set to 3.08. The inclination angle were saved at 3.5 and -1.5.
For some reason the driver rear is about 1 1/4 inches lower than the passenger rear. Can anyone explain this or help me get this adjusted correctly.
Also, can anyone explain exactly what these inclination angles mean and do when adjusted?
Thanks!
For some reason the driver rear is about 1 1/4 inches lower than the passenger rear. Can anyone explain this or help me get this adjusted correctly.
Also, can anyone explain exactly what these inclination angles mean and do when adjusted?
Thanks!
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 3,966
Likes: 1,315
From: Republic of Texas
'99 and '05 E55 AMG
Inclination on the front control arms is taken on the "nubs". Should be positive number. That indicates the inboard end of the control arm is higher than the outboard end.
Inclination on the rear is taken directly off the drive axles. Should be negative number. That indicates the inboard end of the control arm is lower than the outboard end.
The inclination angle change depending upon the height of the car. Outboard ends remain fixed but the inboard ends raise/lower depending upon the height of the car.
Are your numbers voltages? Or degrees?
Rear should be equal in ride height as feedback is from the sensor on the center of the rear swaybar. You may have a leaking air spring or another suspension problem.
Inclination on the rear is taken directly off the drive axles. Should be negative number. That indicates the inboard end of the control arm is lower than the outboard end.
The inclination angle change depending upon the height of the car. Outboard ends remain fixed but the inboard ends raise/lower depending upon the height of the car.
Are your numbers voltages? Or degrees?
Rear should be equal in ride height as feedback is from the sensor on the center of the rear swaybar. You may have a leaking air spring or another suspension problem.
Junior Member
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
From: Austin, Texas
G55k + Europa G500
2.8 left, 2.2 right, 3.08 rear Volts. I haven't had a rear level issue until this. The level remains the same - parked or driving. The vehicle will raise all around when selected.
Is there a way to reset the the level to oem specs? I'm pretty certain the rears are in functional condition but figured it would easier to tell if the car was set back to normal ride height.
Is there a way to reset the the level to oem specs? I'm pretty certain the rears are in functional condition but figured it would easier to tell if the car was set back to normal ride height.
Last edited by factoryKITTED; Mar 2, 2017 at 05:08 PM.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 3,966
Likes: 1,315
From: Republic of Texas
'99 and '05 E55 AMG
The following is just my recommendation.
Find the camber specs for your car. Raise the car in steps and measure camber each time. When you are in the center of the camber range, measure ride height; front should be approximately the same side to side. Rear should also be approximately the same side to side.
Now use an inclinometer app on your phone to measure front and rear inclination angles. They should be approximately in the middle of the range of angles indicated in the diagnostic system.
Voltages in the diagnostic system should also be within the max/min range. If the voltages are in that band, go to next screen and enter the inclination angles and save.
The above should get you into the factory range. FWIW, the values for the rear sensor on the E-class is 2.2 to 3.0 volts. Assuming the CLS suspension is the same as the E, 3.08 volts should be an invalid entry. Again, just conjecture on my part. Hope this assists you in some way.
Here is some before/after info on my car when I calibrated the suspension after rebuilding it. Formatting is screwed up so you will have to add spaces in between...
Before: ** = “Axle Inclination” (rear) or “Control Arm Inclination” (front)
Left Rear Right Rear Left Front Right Front
Camber -2.3 -2.3 -1.3 -1.2
Height 25 3/8” 25 3/8” 26 ½” 25 5/8”
** -2.8 -2.8 +2.6 +2.4
After: ** = “Axle Inclination” (rear) or “Control Arm Inclination” (front)
Left Rear Right Rear Left Front Right Front
Camber -1.6 -1.7 -1.1 -1.2
Height 26 3/4” 27” 26 ¼” 26 ½”
** -1.2 -1.2 +3.1 +3.1
Find the camber specs for your car. Raise the car in steps and measure camber each time. When you are in the center of the camber range, measure ride height; front should be approximately the same side to side. Rear should also be approximately the same side to side.
Now use an inclinometer app on your phone to measure front and rear inclination angles. They should be approximately in the middle of the range of angles indicated in the diagnostic system.
Voltages in the diagnostic system should also be within the max/min range. If the voltages are in that band, go to next screen and enter the inclination angles and save.
The above should get you into the factory range. FWIW, the values for the rear sensor on the E-class is 2.2 to 3.0 volts. Assuming the CLS suspension is the same as the E, 3.08 volts should be an invalid entry. Again, just conjecture on my part. Hope this assists you in some way.
Here is some before/after info on my car when I calibrated the suspension after rebuilding it. Formatting is screwed up so you will have to add spaces in between...
Before: ** = “Axle Inclination” (rear) or “Control Arm Inclination” (front)
Left Rear Right Rear Left Front Right Front
Camber -2.3 -2.3 -1.3 -1.2
Height 25 3/8” 25 3/8” 26 ½” 25 5/8”
** -2.8 -2.8 +2.6 +2.4
After: ** = “Axle Inclination” (rear) or “Control Arm Inclination” (front)
Left Rear Right Rear Left Front Right Front
Camber -1.6 -1.7 -1.1 -1.2
Height 26 3/4” 27” 26 ¼” 26 ½”
** -1.2 -1.2 +3.1 +3.1
Last edited by bbirdwell; Mar 2, 2017 at 05:32 PM. Reason: Added measurement data
Junior Member
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
From: Austin, Texas
G55k + Europa G500
It most certainly was able to save at 3.08, it would not a 3.10 and greater. The computer may recognize 3.0-3.08 as 3 volts. So anything greater or equal to 3.10 would not save.
Let me digest the rest of the information you provided...
Let me digest the rest of the information you provided...
Junior Member
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
From: Austin, Texas
G55k + Europa G500
OK so I have an oddball question... theoretically would a difference in diameter tires from front right to front left make a difference in the rear Height? Assume that the rear tires are the exact same height.
For example...
If the front right tire was just slightly taller than the left front tires.... let's say by .10-.20 inches. Would the taller front right corner make the left rear sit lower than the right rear? Kind of like a teeter totter effect?
For example...
If the front right tire was just slightly taller than the left front tires.... let's say by .10-.20 inches. Would the taller front right corner make the left rear sit lower than the right rear? Kind of like a teeter totter effect?
Last edited by factoryKITTED; Mar 2, 2017 at 07:08 PM.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 3,966
Likes: 1,315
From: Republic of Texas
'99 and '05 E55 AMG
OK so I have an oddball question... theoretically would a difference in diameter tires from front right to front left make a difference in the rear Height? Assume that the rear tires are the exact same height.
For example...
If the front right tire was just slightly taller than the left front tires.... let's say by .10-.20 inches. Would the taller front right corner make the left rear sit lower than the right rear? Kind of like a teeter totter effect?
For example...
If the front right tire was just slightly taller than the left front tires.... let's say by .10-.20 inches. Would the taller front right corner make the left rear sit lower than the right rear? Kind of like a teeter totter effect?
Junior Member
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
From: Austin, Texas
G55k + Europa G500
OK so let me back up a bit just so everything is clear about what I have done so far.
I lowered my W219 CLS55 within the parameters shown on the first page. Left 2.2, right 2.8 and rear 3.0. My inclination angles were set to 3.5 degrees on the fronts and -1.1 degrees for the rear. The vehicle successfully calibrated. For some reason my Left rear is about 1/2 lower than the right rear now. The carport that I did this in wasn't exactly level. Can anyone explain why the rear would show different heights when there's only one level control. If I could adjust the rear airbags individually my problem would be solved. Any advice would be greatly appreciated I have spent three days trying to fix this problem.
I lowered my W219 CLS55 within the parameters shown on the first page. Left 2.2, right 2.8 and rear 3.0. My inclination angles were set to 3.5 degrees on the fronts and -1.1 degrees for the rear. The vehicle successfully calibrated. For some reason my Left rear is about 1/2 lower than the right rear now. The carport that I did this in wasn't exactly level. Can anyone explain why the rear would show different heights when there's only one level control. If I could adjust the rear airbags individually my problem would be solved. Any advice would be greatly appreciated I have spent three days trying to fix this problem.
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 397
Likes: 22
2005 E55 AMG
I am also lowered by a rear link and STAR. But the rear is almost an inch higher on the passenger side than driver side. I've had it adjusted a couple times and can't seem to get it to sit quite right. Does it "settle" after driving? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
