g.smiley

So after accelerating to around 4000rpm at a stop light on Tuesday, I see a huge cloud of blue smoke billowing out from the back of my e63 in the rear view mirror. At first I assumed it was the POS civic next to me but after I smelled what seemed to be gas, I realized it was definately me. Moreover, the car began rattling from side to side, and as I let off the accelerator, the car felt like it was gonna stall. I quickly made a left turn toward a parking lot praying all the while that she didnt die on me in oncoming traffic.

Thankfully, I made it over, and I parked the vehicle in a lot. Now, the smell of gas was very strong and my break pedal turned to rock. I couldnt start her anymore at all and every engine warning light and then some where lit up. The car even screamed (starter engine?) the last time I tried starting it. So I gave up and called a tow. She has been at the dealer ever since

Service advisor called today, and he let me know that they coulndt figure it out yet and that they need an engine specialist to look at it (ofcourse those guys are busy so he needs more time). He inquired if I had been driving in deep water because that is the only thing as of right now that would make an engine "lock up" as he put it. Clearly, I havent been driving in lakes or off roading so Im quite intrigued right now.

Anyone heard of a locked up engine at 13,600 miles?

grantwoodtx

Have u been driving in deep water WTF....... ahh look for high level water marks or the wet carpets or maybe a snorkel so you can drive under water. The SA is an idiot!

C-Class

Blue smoke is no good. Sounds like you have a big issue, hopefully under warranty.


Blue Smoke: Blue smoke is caused by engine oil entering the cylinder area and being burned along with the fuel air mixture. As with the white smoke, just a small drop of oil leaking into the cylinder can produce blue smoke out the tailpipe. Blue smoke is more likely in older or higher mileage vehicles than newer cars with fewer miles. How did the engine oil get inside the cylinder in the first place? The car has many seals, gaskets, and O-rings that are designed to keep the engine oil from entering the cylinder, and one of them has failed. If too much oil leaks into the cylinder and fouls the spark plug, it will cause a misfire (engine miss) in that cylinder, and the spark plug will have to be replaced or cleaned of the oil. Using thicker weight engine oil or an oil additive designed to reduce oil leaks might help reduce the amount of oil leaking into the cylinder.

Yacht Master

I am afraid it will take more than a new spark plug and or thicker oil to fix your engine.
If it is under warranty you will be getting a new engine.

CharlyE500

Did you buy it brand new in 2008 ?

kompressede

Keep us posted.

g.smiley

Ill keep ya posted for sure, and yes, got it brand new 08. Talked to the SA again and same response. An AMG engine specialist is the only one that can look into the engine and see what's going on. If it's a new engine I need then they ll replace it under warranty unless it's something I did which is not the case. Still not too sure about wether I even want an engine replacement...worried about my resale value I suppose.

rluvsbenz

There's a guy who has the same problem in the AMG lounge. He bought his car new. He was in and out of service 4 to 5 time if I recall. He states MB agreed to let him exchange his car for a brand new 2009 units that where in stock. He had a bad engine.

g.smiley

I wonder how much a 6.3 engine goes for these days anyway...?

rluvsbenz

there's a member in this forum that had 04 e55 that needed an engine. His warranty paid 25k +. I suppose E63 would be inline in cost or more since its a new design.

220S

Smiley, what was the mileage on it? Also how was oil consumption?

tgoss

That's definitely oil homie. Gonna suck for the wait but you'll have a fresh 63 to beat on this summer

let us know how it all turns out.

DAGREEKNYC

whats the drive train warranty for the 63 's ?

g.smiley

I had jonly 13 600 miles on it. Apparently i have a blown cylinder on number 8...

dacls63amg

Oh man! Hope everything gets fixed.

infantry

owch bro. hopefully everything goes well with the new plant. id never wish this evil upon anyone not even enemies.

rluvsbenz

Are you getting a new engine from AMG? I was told stealership is not rebuilding these engines in the shop. AMG sends a new engine for replacement.

Jakpro1

Here is what happened. They knew exactly what was wrong (althought they play off that they don't) but they need the corporate engine/regional guy to fly/drive into town to approve the replacement.

It's quite a lot of coin and Benz wants to make sure it's legit, so the regional guy has to come in and inspect, then give the thumbs up for engine replacement or new bottom end etc.

I posted a story of the regional guy at my dealer seeing my tech install headers on my car. He ran over and demanded that my tech give him my VIN so he could void my warranty/blacklist the car for modding.

Me tech looked at him, "He's out of warranty and been out for a year"

He just walked away all pi$$ed. Thought he had another victim.

g.smiley

Yea, he said if it truly is a blown cylinder then they order a new engine from AMG and install it at the dealership.

g.smiley

Im always a bit suspicious when they say they "cant figure it out" right away.

Funny story about him trying to void you

rluvsbenz

It makes wonder about the quality and integrity of MB when things like this happens. I've always been a fan of MB but that being said I expect MB to standby their product and customer.

GSMILEY I hope things work out in your favor.

kjlindgr

I totally don't understand this stuff. All the engines I've had in the past are built to withstand a certain amount of increased power before they start to fail. They happened to be all Japanese engines, but I'm sure the argument can be made for US engines as well:

KA24DE - stock 150hp, bend rods at 350rwhp
RB26DETT - stock 280hp, bend rods at 650rwhp
B18C - stock 140hp, blow pistons up at 350-400hp
LB7 Dmax - stock 520lb/ft, blow pistons up at 800-900lb/ft


I've got more, but that pretty much makes my point. How can these AMG hand-built motors blow up under stock conditions on stock tunes? Mine did. This one did too it seems. It just doesn't make sense to me. They aren't making that much power either so it's not like they are operating on the edge of failure all the time.

It's all a bit troubling.

jkintegra

About 30k actually.

GSMILEY I feel for you, but warranty should cover it.

Number 8 cylinder piston ring lands failed.
I had entire fully loaded crankcase replaced from AMG, heads machined, crank machined and polished and a ton of MISC work done.

Came to about $30k.

Car runs stronger than ever now. But damn, that soon. I think my car had about 50k on the register when it happened. Aftermarket warranty covered it as well, EASYCARE.

g.smiley

So far it is being taken care of under warranty so...so far so good. No funny business as in warranty denial or some such which is good.

It is troubling, but out of the AMGs I have owned (a handful) this is the only one that has ever failed on me in any way so that is the good news, I guess.

Thanks, and yea, warranty is covering it--knock on wood. Still not exactly sure what repairs they are doing and/or planning to do, but apparently, the engine is out, and they will be fixing the issue and not replacing the entire unit. It should take untill the end of next week, but knowing how we operate here, Ill add another week on that estimation. The fact that a specialist is required for all this is what is taking so long.

Your wheels look super by the way. Love the cls/sl wheels, and they look stunning on you w211. Love silver too.