Engine problems...?
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Engine problems...?
So after accelerating to around 4000rpm at a stop light on Tuesday, I see a huge cloud of blue smoke billowing out from the back of my e63 in the rear view mirror. At first I assumed it was the POS civic next to me but after I smelled what seemed to be gas, I realized it was definately me. Moreover, the car began rattling from side to side, and as I let off the accelerator, the car felt like it was gonna stall. I quickly made a left turn toward a parking lot praying all the while that she didnt die on me in oncoming traffic.
Thankfully, I made it over, and I parked the vehicle in a lot. Now, the smell of gas was very strong and my break pedal turned to rock. I couldnt start her anymore at all and every engine warning light and then some where lit up. The car even screamed (starter engine?) the last time I tried starting it. So I gave up and called a tow. She has been at the dealer ever since
Service advisor called today, and he let me know that they coulndt figure it out yet and that they need an engine specialist to look at it (ofcourse those guys are busy so he needs more time). He inquired if I had been driving in deep water because that is the only thing as of right now that would make an engine "lock up" as he put it. Clearly, I havent been driving in lakes or off roading so Im quite intrigued right now.
Anyone heard of a locked up engine at 13,600 miles?
Thankfully, I made it over, and I parked the vehicle in a lot. Now, the smell of gas was very strong and my break pedal turned to rock. I couldnt start her anymore at all and every engine warning light and then some where lit up. The car even screamed (starter engine?) the last time I tried starting it. So I gave up and called a tow. She has been at the dealer ever since
Service advisor called today, and he let me know that they coulndt figure it out yet and that they need an engine specialist to look at it (ofcourse those guys are busy so he needs more time). He inquired if I had been driving in deep water because that is the only thing as of right now that would make an engine "lock up" as he put it. Clearly, I havent been driving in lakes or off roading so Im quite intrigued right now.
Anyone heard of a locked up engine at 13,600 miles?
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Blue smoke is no good. Sounds like you have a big issue, hopefully under warranty.
Blue Smoke: Blue smoke is caused by engine oil entering the cylinder area and being burned along with the fuel air mixture. As with the white smoke, just a small drop of oil leaking into the cylinder can produce blue smoke out the tailpipe. Blue smoke is more likely in older or higher mileage vehicles than newer cars with fewer miles. How did the engine oil get inside the cylinder in the first place? The car has many seals, gaskets, and O-rings that are designed to keep the engine oil from entering the cylinder, and one of them has failed. If too much oil leaks into the cylinder and fouls the spark plug, it will cause a misfire (engine miss) in that cylinder, and the spark plug will have to be replaced or cleaned of the oil. Using thicker weight engine oil or an oil additive designed to reduce oil leaks might help reduce the amount of oil leaking into the cylinder.
Blue Smoke: Blue smoke is caused by engine oil entering the cylinder area and being burned along with the fuel air mixture. As with the white smoke, just a small drop of oil leaking into the cylinder can produce blue smoke out the tailpipe. Blue smoke is more likely in older or higher mileage vehicles than newer cars with fewer miles. How did the engine oil get inside the cylinder in the first place? The car has many seals, gaskets, and O-rings that are designed to keep the engine oil from entering the cylinder, and one of them has failed. If too much oil leaks into the cylinder and fouls the spark plug, it will cause a misfire (engine miss) in that cylinder, and the spark plug will have to be replaced or cleaned of the oil. Using thicker weight engine oil or an oil additive designed to reduce oil leaks might help reduce the amount of oil leaking into the cylinder.
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I am afraid it will take more than a new spark plug and or thicker oil to fix your engine.
If it is under warranty you will be getting a new engine.
If it is under warranty you will be getting a new engine.
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Ill keep ya posted for sure, and yes, got it brand new 08. Talked to the SA again and same response. An AMG engine specialist is the only one that can look into the engine and see what's going on. If it's a new engine I need then they ll replace it under warranty unless it's something I did which is not the case. Still not too sure about wether I even want an engine replacement...worried about my resale value I suppose.
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There's a guy who has the same problem in the AMG lounge. He bought his car new. He was in and out of service 4 to 5 time if I recall. He states MB agreed to let him exchange his car for a brand new 2009 units that where in stock. He had a bad engine.
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there's a member in this forum that had 04 e55 that needed an engine. His warranty paid 25k +. I suppose E63 would be inline in cost or more since its a new design.
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they need an engine specialist to look at it
It's quite a lot of coin and Benz wants to make sure it's legit, so the regional guy has to come in and inspect, then give the thumbs up for engine replacement or new bottom end etc.
I posted a story of the regional guy at my dealer seeing my tech install headers on my car. He ran over and demanded that my tech give him my VIN so he could void my warranty/blacklist the car for modding.
Me tech looked at him, "He's out of warranty and been out for a year"
He just walked away all pi$$ed. Thought he had another victim.
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Here is what happened. They knew exactly what was wrong (althought they play off that they don't) but they need the corporate engine/regional guy to fly/drive into town to approve the replacement.
It's quite a lot of coin and Benz wants to make sure it's legit, so the regional guy has to come in and inspect, then give the thumbs up for engine replacement or new bottom end etc.
I posted a story of the regional guy at my dealer seeing my tech install headers on my car. He ran over and demanded that my tech give him my VIN so he could void my warranty/blacklist the car for modding.
Me tech looked at him, "He's out of warranty and been out for a year"
He just walked away all pi$$ed. Thought he had another victim.
It's quite a lot of coin and Benz wants to make sure it's legit, so the regional guy has to come in and inspect, then give the thumbs up for engine replacement or new bottom end etc.
I posted a story of the regional guy at my dealer seeing my tech install headers on my car. He ran over and demanded that my tech give him my VIN so he could void my warranty/blacklist the car for modding.
Me tech looked at him, "He's out of warranty and been out for a year"
He just walked away all pi$$ed. Thought he had another victim.
Funny story about him trying to void you
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It makes wonder about the quality and integrity of MB when things like this happens. I've always been a fan of MB but that being said I expect MB to standby their product and customer.
GSMILEY I hope things work out in your favor.
GSMILEY I hope things work out in your favor.
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I totally don't understand this stuff. All the engines I've had in the past are built to withstand a certain amount of increased power before they start to fail. They happened to be all Japanese engines, but I'm sure the argument can be made for US engines as well:
KA24DE - stock 150hp, bend rods at 350rwhp
RB26DETT - stock 280hp, bend rods at 650rwhp
B18C - stock 140hp, blow pistons up at 350-400hp
LB7 Dmax - stock 520lb/ft, blow pistons up at 800-900lb/ft
I've got more, but that pretty much makes my point. How can these AMG hand-built motors blow up under stock conditions on stock tunes? Mine did. This one did too it seems. It just doesn't make sense to me. They aren't making that much power either so it's not like they are operating on the edge of failure all the time.
It's all a bit troubling.
KA24DE - stock 150hp, bend rods at 350rwhp
RB26DETT - stock 280hp, bend rods at 650rwhp
B18C - stock 140hp, blow pistons up at 350-400hp
LB7 Dmax - stock 520lb/ft, blow pistons up at 800-900lb/ft
I've got more, but that pretty much makes my point. How can these AMG hand-built motors blow up under stock conditions on stock tunes? Mine did. This one did too it seems. It just doesn't make sense to me. They aren't making that much power either so it's not like they are operating on the edge of failure all the time.
It's all a bit troubling.
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Engine replacement
GSMILEY I feel for you, but warranty should cover it.
Number 8 cylinder piston ring lands failed.
I had entire fully loaded crankcase replaced from AMG, heads machined, crank machined and polished and a ton of MISC work done.
Came to about $30k.
Car runs stronger than ever now. But damn, that soon. I think my car had about 50k on the register when it happened. Aftermarket warranty covered it as well, EASYCARE.
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I totally don't understand this stuff. All the engines I've had in the past are built to withstand a certain amount of increased power before they start to fail. They happened to be all Japanese engines, but I'm sure the argument can be made for US engines as well:
KA24DE - stock 150hp, bend rods at 350rwhp
RB26DETT - stock 280hp, bend rods at 650rwhp
B18C - stock 140hp, blow pistons up at 350-400hp
LB7 Dmax - stock 520lb/ft, blow pistons up at 800-900lb/ft
I've got more, but that pretty much makes my point. How can these AMG hand-built motors blow up under stock conditions on stock tunes? Mine did. This one did too it seems. It just doesn't make sense to me. They aren't making that much power either so it's not like they are operating on the edge of failure all the time.
It's all a bit troubling.
KA24DE - stock 150hp, bend rods at 350rwhp
RB26DETT - stock 280hp, bend rods at 650rwhp
B18C - stock 140hp, blow pistons up at 350-400hp
LB7 Dmax - stock 520lb/ft, blow pistons up at 800-900lb/ft
I've got more, but that pretty much makes my point. How can these AMG hand-built motors blow up under stock conditions on stock tunes? Mine did. This one did too it seems. It just doesn't make sense to me. They aren't making that much power either so it's not like they are operating on the edge of failure all the time.
It's all a bit troubling.
About 30k actually.
GSMILEY I feel for you, but warranty should cover it.
Number 8 cylinder piston ring lands failed.
I had entire fully loaded crankcase replaced from AMG, heads machined, crank machined and polished and a ton of MISC work done.
Came to about $30k.
Car runs stronger than ever now. But damn, that soon. I think my car had about 50k on the register when it happened. Aftermarket warranty covered it as well, EASYCARE.
GSMILEY I feel for you, but warranty should cover it.
Number 8 cylinder piston ring lands failed.
I had entire fully loaded crankcase replaced from AMG, heads machined, crank machined and polished and a ton of MISC work done.
Came to about $30k.
Car runs stronger than ever now. But damn, that soon. I think my car had about 50k on the register when it happened. Aftermarket warranty covered it as well, EASYCARE.
Your wheels look super by the way. Love the cls/sl wheels, and they look stunning on you w211. Love silver too.
