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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 11:05 PM
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Think i need a new one?.. Supercharger just cut out on the highway tonight after a couple quick runs..But worked again a couple minutes later.. Car wasnt even running that hot though. what are your toughts?
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 11:28 PM
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pump....your engine heat gauge will not tell you much
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 12:05 AM
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Sounds like you did your homework, thats exactly what happens when the IC pump fails. No worries just replace.
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 01:18 AM
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This happened to me, I have the pump and HE changed after.
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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How slow really is when the pump fail ? feel like 100hp or still some power but not 469 ? I always thought will be like 349hp like W210 but some say even less power is that true ?
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 03:24 PM
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O.k. for sure I have this pump bad right now... is alot of info but any one have a dyno before / after this replacement? I do my search but no info (Dyno) if anyone, sponsor, shop or wherever have a cm30 pump (in stock) here in CA I will drive to swap the pump... of course I will pay for it + pay for install (1 h. labor)but what about Dyno? can somebody, sponsor can dyno before and after? I will take pictures, info, etc. also post all this info... I can do this my self... but is true.... I guess alot of people here wish to see dyno results before / after IC replacement... let me know.
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlyE500
How slow really is when the pump fail ? feel like 100hp or still some power but not 469 ? I always thought will be like 349hp like W210 but some say even less power is that true ?
No dude, its like an E320! Trust me, you will know.
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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No dude, its like an E320! Trust me, you will know.
yea.. you will know.. when it doesnt put you back in your seat, its not working.
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 05:42 PM
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LOL you will literally put your foot down and absolutely nothing happens

Worst feeling ever. Get a johnson pump and bigger HE if you can afford it, especially if you plan on modding later on
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Old May 1, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by emoving
No dude, its like an E320! Trust me, you will know.
Just a quick question bro you think my cm30 pump is still good on the beast??
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Old May 1, 2010 | 12:38 PM
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Just a quick question bro you think my cm30 pump is still good on the beast??
Its brand new! You need a HE!
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Old May 1, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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Its brand new! You need a HE!
ohhh man you making me spend all my future kids college funds
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Old May 1, 2010 | 12:42 PM
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ohhh man you making me spend all my future kids college funds
At the price you paid, you will get it back!
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Old May 1, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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At the price you paid, you will get it back!
LOL
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Old May 2, 2010 | 02:37 PM
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as mentioned before..

installing a CM30 without bleeding your system.. will yield sub stock performance...

very easy to do..

All you need is a plastic hose from Home Depot or Lowes... read the sticky how to do it...

perform bleeding after the car is hot... and bleed for a few minutes..

when in doubt do it again the next day..
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Old May 3, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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You can have a failing pump and still have plenty of power. I just started datalogging and my IAT's are 120-150 when the car is fully warmed up. Still goes like hell but after 2-3 short bursts it falls flat for several minutes. Feels like a weak V6 like some have mentioned.

I put a beat down on an SRT-8 so if you would have told me my pump was bad I wouldn't have believed you but apparently it is. At least my IAT's are out of control. Once it's warmed up it never goes below 150-155 but like I said it still goes pretty hard. You'd need to data log to be sure.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 03:05 PM
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whats the easiest pump to replace the stock one? heard good things about the johnson cm30 i think it was.. what do you guys reccomend as a replacement for a failing stock pump?
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Old May 3, 2010 | 03:43 PM
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Johnson CM30 is usually the way to go
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Old May 3, 2010 | 04:02 PM
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If you wanna run all day long w/ o heat soak and without a box in ur trunk . Here are things you should do

HE, Johnson pump CM30 or CM90 ( bigger CM30) 10% water wetter mix with MB antifreeze coolant , PTE ( Patrick) 150T-Stat, spacers . That is all you need just in case if some1 wannna play you .
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