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Old May 3, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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2004 E55 vs. 2007 Z06

I went out to San Mexico this weekend and met up with a friend. We decided to do a few runs.Temperature was 89degrees! My car is in need of a tune, o2 sensors, and the 82mm TB isn't installed yet. The Z06 has intake and an Axelback Exahust.

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Old May 3, 2010 | 01:34 PM
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I'm surprised with all of your mods this wasn't closer.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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That looks just like my dads. Damn I was hoping you'd take him! lol Maybe with the tune and TB The Z06 scares me a bit if I haven't driven it in a while. It just wants to go like hell. I think it's awesome that an E55 can stay close. Although I think the experience would be a bit more subdue because it's quieter etc in the benz.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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Get the TB installed and that baby tuned and go back down for some whoop azz

Nice runs!
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Old May 3, 2010 | 02:02 PM
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Z06s are no joke!
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Old May 3, 2010 | 02:20 PM
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have u logged ait's to see what they are like with a 185 ASP Pulley?
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Old May 3, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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Nice race. I think with a TB, good tires and some cold weather you may have a chance.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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We have logged the IAT's. They are about 5-9 above ambient. Ambient was 89degrees with these runs. The conditions were not as i'd like them to be. first race launched at 60mph, horrible gear/speed for our cars. Second race I didn't launch it fully off the line, 3rd race traffic issues. Considering these cars trap over 125mph, i think it was good. I also ned a new tune, o2 sensors, and the TB.

One day I will dominate hiM! haha!
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Old May 3, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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How many WHP do you have right now on your car?

I think you will need to get the TB on quickly and re-tune your car and then it will different story for sure.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by emoving
Z06s are no joke!
This is word for word what I was going to say. Good luck next time, if you are on drag radials you should out launch him
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Old May 3, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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Much respect to the mighty Z.

Bout the only things I won't even try are Z06s (newer), Supras since they are almost always turbd and Shelby Replicas with big blocks.

We have a shop pumping them out down south of me and the Shelbys (replicas) are everywhere.

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Old May 3, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by EcoScope
How many WHP do you have right now on your car?

I think you will need to get the TB on quickly and re-tune your car and then it will different story for sure.
I haven't dyno'd the car with the new mods. Last dyno was 503rwhp/604rwtrq.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 03:36 PM
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Much respect to the mighty Z.

Bout the only things I won't even try are Z06s (newer), Supras since they are almost always turbd and Shelby Replicas with big blocks.

We have a shop pumping them out down south of me and the Shelbys (replicas) are everywhere.

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Not to jack the thread, but, I also have a Cobra replica making 473 hp with a 347 and weighs in at 2100lbs. That's 4.4 lbs/hp. Very, very hard to beat on anything but two wheels. Takes some driving though.

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Old May 3, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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I think I'll pass from racing my neighbor's 2008 Lingenfelter Z06!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old May 3, 2010 | 05:01 PM
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I think I'll pass from racing my neighbor's 2008 Lingenfelter Z06!!!!!!!!!!!!
good idea...anything coming out of Lingenfelter is just plain out nasty.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by HadiLaw
We have logged the IAT's. They are about 5-9 above ambient. Ambient was 89degrees with these runs. The conditions were not as i'd like them to be. first race launched at 60mph, horrible gear/speed for our cars. Second race I didn't launch it fully off the line, 3rd race traffic issues. Considering these cars trap over 125mph, i think it was good. I also ned a new tune, o2 sensors, and the TB.

One day I will dominate hiM! haha!
I'm confused, 5-9 at what speed? at cruise? What you need to know is your peak temp at wot, It should be way higher than 5-9 inless your chemicaly cooling it.
What are your symptoms for your failing 02 sensors? Ive been trying to figure mine out and the best I can tell is that there ok based on the voltage, but I'm intrested to see if there's some other way to test it?
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Old May 3, 2010 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bigswin
I'm surprised with all of your mods this wasn't closer.
the only true hp mods are the pulley, headers, and tune so basically only a stage 2 car. i think he did pretty well considering...
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Old May 3, 2010 | 06:37 PM
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Were you in 2nd/3rd on the take off or in D?
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Old May 3, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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Good race. It's two diffrent animals but, very impressed. I love how you hung in there.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 07:22 PM
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Stock z06 with a good driver run 60-130 in 7.8 seconds or so. Very impressed that your car was that close from 60mph because our cars are just not geared for that type of run.

Also, what are your iats at wot or just after a run?

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Old May 3, 2010 | 07:33 PM
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+1 on almost everything everybody else said - good to see that it was that close but Z06's are no joke - can't wait to see the rematch when you get the list installed!
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Old May 3, 2010 | 07:50 PM
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Hadilow, nice race and you have very good cooling system but your car is still not highly modded, no TB, no intake, no cams, no LT headers and the tires are street tires.
I thought from the dig you had chance but this z06 launched up good, maybe the z06 tires are DR or the driver is good .
most of the z06 from the dig , keep spinning long time in the ground if the tires are not DR.
I raced z06 before and my friend posted the video here before!
we thought before this z06 is stock but we found later z06 is modded with intake and tuning !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSN43JA1T6M

The video is long but you can watch the last race with the z06, some are thinking there is a problem with this z06 but it is healthy z06 with street tires!
I raced the same z06 from dig and I destroyed him , up to 140m/h my car is about 3 car length in front .
I think there is still chance for E55 with z06 if it is highly modded and the zo6 is stock or lightly modded
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Old May 3, 2010 | 10:48 PM
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the only true hp mods are the pulley, headers, and tune so basically only a stage 2 car. i think he did pretty well considering...
Kinda of what I thought, and in one race he jumped you on the horns. still you did ok but I would get all your mods lined out and try it again. would be even closer, to me you still win. almost as fast ,nicer ride and carry 4 while you almost beat the Z06., now when it comes to handling the Z06 is much harder to beat. looks like fun. I am still running around down here waiting for someone to test me. I know there is modded camaro looking for me somewhere.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by speedpeddler
Not to jack the thread, but, I also have a Cobra replica making 473 hp with a 347 and weighs in at 2100lbs. That's 1.36 lbs/hp. Very, very hard to beat on anything but two wheels. Takes some driving though.
2100 lbs /473 hp = 4.4 lbs/hp

2100 lbs / 1544.11 hp = 1.36 lbs/hp
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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:11 AM
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Good runs Hadi, the E55 is a beast!

Z06 is actually an 08, but everything else is correct.

Here is the video recorded from my car with all the runs we did that day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXPz5_yWAkc
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