Stay far FAR away from PES TUNING!!
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. I had the car tuned a few weeks back by a reputable company, and the car picked up 80whp and 95ft lbs. (side note, there was another PES tuned car at this tune day and he picked up more then I did!!) I have datalogged this new tune pretty extensively, and my afrs are actually a tad rich and the timing looks to be perfect..
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FYI - some people on the Audi B6/B7 S4 (the v8 engine ones) had some things to say about the PES designed supercharger kit for their cars
http://www.euroaddiction.net/forum/f...splay.php?f=34
http://www.euroaddiction.net/forum/f...splay.php?f=34
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oh come on now BT, those cf intake tubes and K&N's gave you some whp!
Let's not forget about cutting off the "flaps" in front of the intakes - documented 5 whp
. . . (I'm still salty you're putting down more power than me
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More good info about PES. It looks like they are creating quite a reputation for themselves.
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-t-get-deleted...
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-t-get-deleted...
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damn, $10k for a kit and blowing a motor soon after!!!!
I hope the OP gets his $1500 refund for the bad tune he got!!
Ilya- what have you done to your car lately??? lets catch up again for lunch.
I hope the OP gets his $1500 refund for the bad tune he got!!
Ilya- what have you done to your car lately??? lets catch up again for lunch.
Last edited by novae500; May 27, 2010 at 09:07 AM.
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Awesome Charlie! I'm glad you got things all sorted out and I can't wail to see your new numbers. I have no doubt you'll be my East coast competitor since Ahmad is in a league of his own...damn Ahmad!!! Enjoy the car and be safe brotha!!!
Why don't you go out there and get that 60-130 time like we were talking about.
Why don't you go out there and get that 60-130 time like we were talking about.
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I was gonna said the same thing. From the way it sounds, PES did not put the gaskets between the headers and the heads. If that the case, your AFR is definitely out of wack because of the exhaust leak.
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Sorry you had to deal with this, but I am not surprised to hear this. I own a PES S/C Audi S4, I purchased it with the s/c installed and couldnt believe the poor quality of work on the car. When I first purchased it, the car would start maybe 1 out of 5 times, the reason? The PES kit blew the first motor because of a leaking intercooler which hydrolocked the motor, when they replaced the motor they spliced in a wiring harness from a manual trans car while mine is an auto (I know, I know...). They had left a ton of open loops in the wiring and then left the ECU cover off while the car sat outside this winter for 6 weeks!!! The car really ran like crap, I saw water temps of 217 degrees! There also seemed to be a total lack of pride in the work done on the car. I understand it wasnt detailed up, but if you look on the left side of the motor you will see one of many closed looped wires that were just sitting in the engine bay as well as exposed wires going to the ignition coils.
I picked up the car right after it had sat outside like that and the car ended up going to a reputable shop to have the car properly fixed. It needed a whole new engine wiring harness as well as ton of other work to fix "flood like" problems from the car sitting outside with no ecu cover. I spent tons of time getting the car to run properly and I can say now its a solid performing car.
Just to give you an idea, here's a shot of the car the day I picked it up, I took this pic while I was pulling all the spark plugs to replace them to see if thats why it wasnt starting:
And than after a lot of this:
It now looks like this:
I picked up the car right after it had sat outside like that and the car ended up going to a reputable shop to have the car properly fixed. It needed a whole new engine wiring harness as well as ton of other work to fix "flood like" problems from the car sitting outside with no ecu cover. I spent tons of time getting the car to run properly and I can say now its a solid performing car.
Just to give you an idea, here's a shot of the car the day I picked it up, I took this pic while I was pulling all the spark plugs to replace them to see if thats why it wasnt starting:
And than after a lot of this:
It now looks like this:
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More good info about PES. It looks like they are creating quite a reputation for themselves.
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-t-get-deleted...
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-t-get-deleted...
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sure is...there are 2 employees there. Patrick is 50% of them. He's the 'brawn' of the operation, while Tony is the 'brains'
PES has set the supercharger market in the Audi S4 (4.2 V8) world back about 3 years with their undersized, underpowered, undercooled overpromising kit. Besides reliability issues, they've promised 160hp over stock, for about $8500+install. Should be 500hp when installed on a 3800 lb car. Of course those supercharged '500hp' cars run the quarter mile in about 12.9 seconds...so clearly the kit is making NO WHERE NEAR the promised power.
As for reliability, they've installed 5 on member cars in our Audi forums. They've all had trouble. If you read the 9 page story of DaveD's car (in the AZ thread above) it makes the gasketless headers guy look like he got off easy.
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ould-love-this...
PES has set the supercharger market in the Audi S4 (4.2 V8) world back about 3 years with their undersized, underpowered, undercooled overpromising kit. Besides reliability issues, they've promised 160hp over stock, for about $8500+install. Should be 500hp when installed on a 3800 lb car. Of course those supercharged '500hp' cars run the quarter mile in about 12.9 seconds...so clearly the kit is making NO WHERE NEAR the promised power.
As for reliability, they've installed 5 on member cars in our Audi forums. They've all had trouble. If you read the 9 page story of DaveD's car (in the AZ thread above) it makes the gasketless headers guy look like he got off easy.
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ould-love-this...
Last edited by sakimano; May 27, 2010 at 08:09 PM.
