Where are you guys getting the MB Arts rear camber kit from?
Thanks.

 

for now, from MB Arts. Soon from a sponsor. A new and expanded version is about to be released, if you'd like to be a project car? I can't drop details yet but it is a new feature on the arm.
Out of respect for EVOsport (current sponsor that carries similar items) and the many sponsors that carry KMac knuckles, I dunno how much I can pimp them here. But, it is key to remember that these parts have been a topic within this forum long before any sponsors released theirs, so there is a history of discussing them here.

 

you can pm GLK4matic

 

either of you using this product I'm dropped and about to get 20' s so I will need an aliment and help getting it to spec

 

The arms were designed with my car with great results. Once other cars were tested, we found a number of clearance challenges because of various differences between individual cars. It basically comes down to the airtube nipple for the airmatic and the sway bar.

The nipple can stick out in various positions and lengths, depending on how it was installed. One option would be to have an MB tech turn the unit slightly to get the nipple turned away.

I have been a bit out of the loop but just found out from MBArts today that they are now in production of a "maximum" clearance arm to not only help with all of the clearance concerns on the W211 but also make it applicable to other chassis. I believe they will be released within a week or so and can't comment much more until I see them and try them on a CLS63

 

No, I'm not using the arms. Was just answering OP's question on how to reach MB Arts

 

You want to skipmthe mbarts arms. They DO NOT FIT and they will not fit. Search the forum in the last 60 days and you will see photos of the issues

 

Even the latest versions Jangy mentioned?

 

Yes

 

OK, so what the heck do I use to adjust rear camber?

 

Don't speak for me, bro.

Try to find a single post or person that EVER got MBArts parts through me and did not have a PERFECT fit.

If you know that the revision that is NOT even out yet will not fit, then please elaborate on the details.

I don't handle MBArts' customer service or sales but keep in mind that these arms were developed ON this forum with full and open discussion.

I honestly don't know your full story (although I can guess) to understand your angle. But, just saying they don't FIT and will never FIT is pretty vague. I can tell you for sure that my personal business would have a gag order for those that I had to pay because they couldn't be made happy. I know you didn't get hung out to dry or you would be crying wolf about that even louder.

All I can say is that anyone that ever gets parts through me pays the least price and definitely knows what they are getting into. As of now, I only know of 1 member (mikey) that even possesses the old version. His haven't even been tried out but I already assured him that Jay would gladly swap it out with the new version.

Now, does anyone here think that both Chiromikey and I will lie about our experiences with MBArts and whether or not the parts fit?

Stay tuned.....

 

I'd hope you know better than to listen to someone calling BS on me.....

 

^^^
fwiw, £ C43 £ AMG £ had started a thread not long ago (with pics) about the MBarts arms not fitting properly on his lowered 55. I'm guessing they were the old ones, and anyway he deleted his thread so I'm also guessing he got everything worked out to his satisfaction in the end.

 

I already said it in my prior post. The only clearance concerns I have heard of were 1 where the airmatic nipples rubbed at extreme squat and 1 where the swaybar rubbed. Same parts on a different car were fine. So, MBArts changed the design in 2 ways to alleviate both of those issues, regardless of individual car (basically he added more clearance tolerances to his design).

The reason I have never had an issue is because I am very picky all the way down to install. I will not get into a war of words and am not in a position to point blame, but the truth still remains that I haven't had an issue installing a single set and have no reason for them NOT to fit.

As a side note, since these arms simply replace the OEM arms and can be set to the exact same length as the factory ones (which is the proper way to install them), then why would the OEM arm also not be rubbing on the sway bar? If it were, would you blame your OEM arm or the sway bar? If you wondered, coudn't you simply check on another E55 and see that the sway bars are "different"? If yours was bent and thus protruding as much as a 1/2" (which is a minor bend but lots of clearance), then would you really still blame the arms?

My last bit of advice. Make sure who installs it has suspension experience. You MUST set the arms to OEM length for install so that the adjoining arms are not stressed. Once everything is in place, then you adjust the camber which moves many arms. Make sure that the shop installing the parts has no issues with MBArts and isn't trying to steal designs like a certain shop in NorCal that we dealt with early on.

For real research, go read on mymbonline where many members actually have and talk about their arms and cars.

Sorry Dan for ruining your thread, but I take things in life personally especially when a member jumps out and calls me a liar.

 

Jangy,

You are lying. I still have the failed set of arms that don't fit. Ask Chiromikey why he doesn't have a set of the arms on his car and ask him about the photos of the arms that don't fit. Or ask Jay about his "Customer Service" and why it took over 4 months for me to get my money back.

 

The fitting and quality is perfect ...... but the clearance near the sway bar is the issue.

Apparently the issue is that w211 e55 have different sway bars/antiroll bars?

MB Arts is currently updating the design and sending me replacements which will cater for the different sway bars.

 

I will and he is usually pretty mellow with people so I am sure this was a good one. I'll be honest it is pretty obvious though since you say you still have the arms AND you got your money back.

Again, I will be sure to discuss your situation with Jay and I assure you the refund policy will change to add that gag rule.

There is a sign in EVERY single store in America that says (paraphrasing):

"WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE WE CHOOSE"

and Maverick you have been chosen.

 

since i'm in the middle of this and haven't even posted...i'll post now.

i was one of the very first people to purchase these arms but due to a tuning fiasco with another shop i never got the chance to install them. now that i'm finally ready to attack my suspension, i emailed jay last night expressing my concerns about fitment on my first generation camber arms because it is known that some cars are having problems. jay emailed me first thing this morning explaining some of the fitment issues and letting me know that he would absolutely exchange out my old arms for the updated version.

i'm pretty happy with that response and i'll let be sure to let everyone know how the new arms fit.

 

Wow, didn't want a lot of conflict going. The way I see it is you guys feel strongly about your positions and for me personally and I'll view that you are looking out for my best interest. For that I say thank you.

So to my understanding then, for Rear Camber kits: MBarts is finalizing a new version, EvoSport may have one and Kmac is out of the running. That pretty much it, correct?

So Jangy when do the MBarts come out?

 

Refund policy's with "gag rules" are a sign of people wanting to hide something, good luck with that Jangy....

as for not being able to buy from you and MBarts.... Who cares, I've already tried them out, they don't work, I don't like Jays attitude, I'm not going to be buying from him again anyways.

 

this made me lol so hard

 

I'm trying to be nice here. Let's get back on topic please.
I just talked with EVOsport and they do not have a rear camber kit. They also said that the amount my car is lowered should not really affect camber. They think my inner tire wear is from Toe out during load. I have worn my tires to metal on the inside. They have their Toe kit for $998.00.

Has anyone used these and found them to reduce inner tire wear?

 

I agree with evosport. improper toe will contribute to a faster rate of tire wear than will negative camber. I've run -2.5 on the rears with zero toe for almost 8 years now. I get even tire wear. And toe is easy to correct on these cars.

 

What did you use to correct Toe?

 

Nothing is needed to correct toe. Toe is adjustable on our cars. Camber is not, which is why camber kits are sold.