New tuner, on my quest for #1 in the SL600
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RE: ECU/TCU Tune
Benzo,
Most interesting and detailed posting.
My SL600 ended up with your exact Eurocharged tune. When it was initially tuned, they used a tune from a dyno run which supposedly had a bit more torque. Suffice it to say that the initial tune was not fully sorted out, and IMHO was putting out too much torque for the stock TCU at times as well as a few other minor drivability issues. I sent my ECU off to Jerry in July, got flashed with your tune, and my car has run perfectly since. For what it's worth, I've never been able to do WOT from a dig with this tune, once the turbos kick in in 1st I get the orange triangle big time. I've learned to work the go pedal pretty well though, and am running very consistently from a dig.
Am I interested in a combined ECU/TCU combo....better refined....for this platform? Quite possibly.
Very interested in your 9-17 results but also your real world street drivability observations after putting a few miles on this combo.
Please keep us posted and good luck getting that record.
Most interesting and detailed posting.
My SL600 ended up with your exact Eurocharged tune. When it was initially tuned, they used a tune from a dyno run which supposedly had a bit more torque. Suffice it to say that the initial tune was not fully sorted out, and IMHO was putting out too much torque for the stock TCU at times as well as a few other minor drivability issues. I sent my ECU off to Jerry in July, got flashed with your tune, and my car has run perfectly since. For what it's worth, I've never been able to do WOT from a dig with this tune, once the turbos kick in in 1st I get the orange triangle big time. I've learned to work the go pedal pretty well though, and am running very consistently from a dig.
Am I interested in a combined ECU/TCU combo....better refined....for this platform? Quite possibly.
Very interested in your 9-17 results but also your real world street drivability observations after putting a few miles on this combo.
Please keep us posted and good luck getting that record.
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Clayton,
You're a class act man! No bashing, no nut swinging, just lots of experience and research working towards a documented, real world goal with a car you can literally drive from the entrance gate to the lights.
That record is yours.
You're a class act man! No bashing, no nut swinging, just lots of experience and research working towards a documented, real world goal with a car you can literally drive from the entrance gate to the lights.
That record is yours.
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Benzo,
Most interesting and detailed posting.
My SL600 ended up with your exact Eurocharged tune. When it was initially tuned, they used a tune from a dyno run which supposedly had a bit more torque. Suffice it to say that the initial tune was not fully sorted out, and IMHO was putting out too much torque for the stock TCU at times as well as a few other minor drivability issues. I sent my ECU off to Jerry in July, got flashed with your tune, and my car has run perfectly since. For what it's worth, I've never been able to do WOT from a dig with this tune, once the turbos kick in in 1st I get the orange triangle big time. I've learned to work the go pedal pretty well though, and am running very consistently from a dig.
Am I interested in a combined ECU/TCU combo....better refined....for this platform? Quite possibly.
Very interested in your 9-17 results but also your real world street drivability observations after putting a few miles on this combo.
Please keep us posted and good luck getting that record.
Most interesting and detailed posting.
My SL600 ended up with your exact Eurocharged tune. When it was initially tuned, they used a tune from a dyno run which supposedly had a bit more torque. Suffice it to say that the initial tune was not fully sorted out, and IMHO was putting out too much torque for the stock TCU at times as well as a few other minor drivability issues. I sent my ECU off to Jerry in July, got flashed with your tune, and my car has run perfectly since. For what it's worth, I've never been able to do WOT from a dig with this tune, once the turbos kick in in 1st I get the orange triangle big time. I've learned to work the go pedal pretty well though, and am running very consistently from a dig.
Am I interested in a combined ECU/TCU combo....better refined....for this platform? Quite possibly.
Very interested in your 9-17 results but also your real world street drivability observations after putting a few miles on this combo.
Please keep us posted and good luck getting that record.
Thanks!
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Hey Jay, how are you liking your Speedriven ECU/TCU? Can you elaborate on how your car feels, (before and after) for comparison? For me, most of the difference is in the upper RPMs, at full boost. My Eurocharged tune felt a bit stronger off boost, but ran out of breath up top. The new tune, feels milder down low, but pulls like a freight train in full boost. But when it shifts, I get a more linear power delivery. Before the TCU tune, power would dip, right after it shifted. I can assume that was the torque management in the TCU begging for mercy.
John @ Broadway Performance has driven a number of stock and ECU tune only 600's and 65's and he also confirms that there is no dip after shifts - car just keeps on pulling during shifts. Stock, there was always a slight lag from the stock TCU.
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Glad everybody's enjoying Marcin's TCU!!! I knew she felt unchained after I installed mine... Cooling mods/DP's will really open her up. Good Luck Fri Clay! I'm certain you'll shred previous Trap speed by @ least 3+mph
Considering we now know where the ORIGINAL Jerry Rigged ECU came from
Fukin guys mang
Considering we now know where the ORIGINAL Jerry Rigged ECU came from
Fukin guys mang
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Glad everybody's enjoying Marcin's TCU!!! I knew she felt unchained after I installed mine... Cooling mods/DP's will really open her up. Good Luck Fri Clay! I'm certain you'll shred previous Trap speed by @ least 3+mph
Considering we now know where the ORIGINAL Jerry Rigged ECU came from Fukin guys mang
Considering we now know where the ORIGINAL Jerry Rigged ECU came from
Fukin guys mangDefinitely loving the TCU. Had you not gotten it, and logged some miles on it, I probably wouldn't have gotten it. It's so nice not to have that little dip in power right after the car shifts. It never stops pulling. Ever. If I continue modding, I'll probably go with cooling mods. Not sure how much more I want to mess with the exhaust. I know I'll shed weight by getting rid of those beer keg sized cats, but that's down the road a bit.
As for the other part. I leave that one alone.
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Thanks Sean.
Definitely loving the TCU. Had you not gotten it, and logged some miles on it, I probably wouldn't have gotten it. It's so nice not to have that little dip in power right after the car shifts. It never stops pulling. Ever. If I continue modding, I'll probably go with cooling mods. Not sure how much more I want to mess with the exhaust. I know I'll shed weight by getting rid of those beer keg sized cats, but that's down the road a bit.
As for the other part. I leave that one alone.
Definitely loving the TCU. Had you not gotten it, and logged some miles on it, I probably wouldn't have gotten it. It's so nice not to have that little dip in power right after the car shifts. It never stops pulling. Ever. If I continue modding, I'll probably go with cooling mods. Not sure how much more I want to mess with the exhaust. I know I'll shed weight by getting rid of those beer keg sized cats, but that's down the road a bit.
As for the other part. I leave that one alone.
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Thanks Sean.
Definitely loving the TCU. Had you not gotten it, and logged some miles on it, I probably wouldn't have gotten it. It's so nice not to have that little dip in power right after the car shifts. It never stops pulling. Ever. If I continue modding, I'll probably go with cooling mods. Not sure how much more I want to mess with the exhaust. I know I'll shed weight by getting rid of those beer keg sized cats, but that's down the road a bit.
As for the other part. I leave that one alone.
Definitely loving the TCU. Had you not gotten it, and logged some miles on it, I probably wouldn't have gotten it. It's so nice not to have that little dip in power right after the car shifts. It never stops pulling. Ever. If I continue modding, I'll probably go with cooling mods. Not sure how much more I want to mess with the exhaust. I know I'll shed weight by getting rid of those beer keg sized cats, but that's down the road a bit.
As for the other part. I leave that one alone.
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Not that great. Mid 80* temps does horrible things to these V12TTs. I ran consistent 11.7x @117 all damn day. Then I had Jeremy tweak my ECU and the car dipped into the 11.6s@119.
The TCU tune felt great. No loss in power right after the shift, just as advertised. I just needed a bit more aggressive ECU to get back to my normal 119MPH. Car needs a custom dyno tune, I believe. After that, and with some luck in the D/A dept, I should be able to get close to that 11.25 record. My 11.40, was in remarkable D/A (temp was in the 40's), so I'll need to run in those temps, at MIR to have a shot at it.
If we can't do it this season, I'll start looking into some cooling mods.
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Cool deal with the 11.6@119....did your 60' stay in the 1.80 range? Nice tweak with the ECU as a solid tenth and 2mph isn't shabby at all....especially with 93 octane. If you kept tweaking, I would be that you would run out of room due to a lack of octane. Also remember that the 11.25 record had a low 1.6 60' so you have .2 right there...probably more. Just don't do like me and start breaking stuff...
I will get my car right eventually...I promise.
I will get my car right eventually...I promise.
