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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 11:04 PM
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Car was booking tonight, hooked well, nice air temp

My 175 is officially for sale if you want it. Mid 11s is good enough for my needs.

edit: lemme go grab the slips from the car, brb
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 11:14 PM
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Congrats! IMO...this speaks volumes over over rated dyno numbers. I wouldn't care if you put down 300 rwhp with your times. Once again, nicely done!

BTW...like I've always said, VRP shorties for the win. There are sooo many cars in the mid 11's with these headers, really there are. Did you notice a nice increase in traps with the headers?
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 11:20 PM
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Mods (in order):

LET mail tune
VRP shorties
cm30
s55 snorkel
TB grind

Car was booking tonight, it hooked well and the air was nice.



edit: VRPs definitely increased performance - top end has more pull. So pumped I got them

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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AWOL
Mods (in order):

LET mail tune
VRP shorties
cm30
s55 snorkel
TB grind

Car was booking tonight, it hooked well and the air was nice.



edit: VRPs definitely increased performance - top end has more pull. So pumped I got them
Damn, nice 60' time. It's all about the first 330'!!!!

You should start your own thread and get some recognition for your outstanding times.

Time and time again the VRP headers are out performing the competition...damn!!! My buddy Mike has the VRP headers with one up on you with the ASP pulley and his car ran a PB of 11.373 @ 123.9 with a 1.77 60' time at Famoso last year, or was it this year..... Damn, it sucks getting old.
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 11:56 PM
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my let mail tune was running 29.33d timing,that might help with your trap speeds,we backed it down to 25degress to be safe.

Just saying
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by skratch77
my let mail tune was running 29.33d timing,that might help with your trap speeds,we backed it down to 25degress to be safe.

Just saying
I disagree, I believe with more timing you car will run slower without the proper octane. If he was running race gas that would be a different story.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by bassn_07
I disagree, I believe with more timing you car will run slower without the proper octane. If he was running race gas that would be a different story.
thats what my let mail tune was running with there 180mm pulley kit.Im sure hes runnning even more since his mail tune is for stock boost.

I have pics of some files if you want to see them
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AWOL
Mods (in order):

LET mail tune
VRP shorties
cm30
s55 snorkel
TB grind

Car was booking tonight, it hooked well and the air was nice.



edit: VRPs definitely increased performance - top end has more pull. So pumped I got them
Great times and nice job, not to beat a dead horse but looking at your slips and comparing them to slip of my cars best run makes me wonder if Sac's times are really off. Our times are really similiar as well as the speeds.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by skratch77
thats what my let mail tune was running with there 180mm pulley kit.Im sure hes runnning even more since his mail tune is for stock boost.

I have pics of some files if you want to see them
I believe you but I would think that if he was knocking on the top end his car wouldn't have performed as well as it did. As you know, knocking on our cars will pull a significant amount of timing, and in turn the car runs richer with less power. His car performed well right from the start and finish with excellent results. Like I mentioned, if he was running race gas that would remedy the problem of possibly knocking.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Hammer Down
This reminds me of the scene from Pineapple Express where the two guys are tied up making a plan to escape and the guy with the gun is on the other side of the door and he comes in and says "I can hear you"

anyway just to clarify I run a 50/50 mix of crappy california chevron 91 and erc's 100 so that should bring me to 95/96 octane. I believe that they run 93 octane on the east coast and in southern states so I call the octane issue a wash!
also I've never had anything in my sig other than quickest & fastest stock E55 or quickest & fastest stock powered E55 on DR's and finally quickest & fastest stock on DR's. I've never mentioned boost only because my car is stock other than the drag radials.

my best time on street tires & chevron 91 was 12.07@118.65

oh I just remembered that I did have quickest & fastest on the west coast at one time (Max where you at? :-) ) and just before I past the great Enzom and his beast I had the 2nd quickest & fastest stock E55 in the country

ok carry on
Hammer, what about Air-Filters? Think real hard before answering as I know the truth I've NEVER hidden ANY mods during countless st races w/well known members here...Chance to come clean
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bassn_07
I believe you but I would think that if he was knocking on the top end his car wouldn't have performed as well as it did. As you know, knocking on our cars will pull a significant amount of timing, and in turn the car runs richer with less power. His car performed well right from the start and finish with excellent results. Like I mentioned, if he was running race gas that would remedy the problem of possibly knocking.
ohh I know trust me,I was shocked when I saw my file but my car wasnt knocking even with the 180pulley on it.

it was lean,that was my only concern and I wanted to be safe and lowered it.

that is the only explanation I have of him running so strong,his car is making around 450-460whp to trap those speeds.

I just looked at my timing tables and it made my arm hairs raise up.Im just glad I didnt blow my car up.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Hammer Down
Great times and nice job, not to beat a dead horse but looking at your slips and comparing them to slip of my cars best run makes me wonder if Sac's times are really off. Our times are really similiar as well as the speeds.
Yeah, I hear you Jack but the numbers I got indicated they were off. I'll tell you what, you, Mike, and myself should take our cars to Famoso and put this to a rest. Either way the ET's are dead accurate and that itself is what the 1/4 mile is about. If you really want to see how your car performs on the upper end do some 60-130 runs. Our cars really aren't geared for it but you could compare with Mike's and my times.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bassn_07
Yeah, I hear you Jack but the numbers I got indicated they were off. I'll tell you what, you, Mike, and myself should take our cars to Famoso and put this to a rest. Either way the ET's are dead accurate and that itself is what the 1/4 mile is about. If you really want to see how your car performs on the upper end do some 60-130 runs. Our cars really aren't geared for it but you could compare with Mike's and my times.
take a look at the 60',330' and the 1/8 he is quicker by a tad which would explain his 11.6 vs 11.7 and both speeds were 121+ math doesn't lie the two runs were almost identical.

60-130 hmmm not sure about that as I can't risk the ticket like some could due to my class A commercial license.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Hammer Down
take a look at the 60',330' and the 1/8 he is quicker by a tad which would explain his 11.6 vs 11.7 and both speeds were 121+ math doesn't lie the two runs were almost identical.

60-130 hmmm not sure about that as I can't risk the ticket like some could due to my class A commercial license.
No **** about that Class A license...don't fudge with that because they come down hard on you guys.

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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 12:40 AM
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Hammer, what about Air-Filters? Think real hard before answering as I know the truth I've NEVER hidden ANY mods during countless st races w/well known members here...Chance to come clean
don't have to think real hard, what about them? I've run 121.6 with stock 6yr old filters when I raced against Alan and when Alan drove my car they were out and he ran 121.8.......I call it a wash
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 12:45 AM
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ohh I know trust me,I was shocked when I saw my file but my car wasnt knocking even with the 180pulley on it.

it was lean,that was my only concern and I wanted to be safe and lowered it.

that is the only explanation I have of him running so strong,his car is making around 450-460whp to trap those speeds.

I just looked at my timing tables and it made my arm hairs raise up.Im just glad I didnt blow my car up.
I've never looked at my timing tables but more so at my logs. I run my tune at the track with both 91 and 100 octane and compare the files. In most cases I would pick up 1 -2 degrees of timing with race gas but in my eyes that's acceptable. I now run water/meth to help with the cooling and my timing is very solid now.

My preference would be to be safer on the timing side and a little more aggressive on the AFR's, not too aggressive but definitely not conservative.
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Originally Posted by Hammer Down
don't have to think real hard, what about them? I've run 121.6 with stock 6yr old filters when I raced against Alan and when Alan drove my car they were out and he ran 121.8.......I call it a wash
Hmmm alright, I heard from VERY RELIABLE WELL RESPECTED member here, you DON'T USE ANY FILTERS during these RECORD RUNS You sure those 6yr old filters weren't in the trunk?

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Hmmm alright, I heard from VERY RELIABLE WELL RESPECTED member here, you DON'T USE ANY FILTERS
I'll tell you just like I just told that well respected member I started running with no filters after he and I raced and I went 121.6 and I wanted to go 122 and the only thing left that i could think of was something Andy (mhp) told me along time ago was to take the filters out but funny thing is I never went over 121.6 with them out, sure it sounded great but FOR ME it didn't give me gains that I was hoping for but then Alan hops in my car and goes 121.8 mind you these runs were about 4 months apart.
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Hammer has taken his filters out in front of many members here on MBW. The time Sal came down and the last outing when Sneakyneon came down. I honestly don't think he's trying to hide anything otherwise he would have done it before arriving at the track.

To be honest, I don't know when Hammer took out his filters but I do believe him on when he says he did. It was my bad Jack, I shouldn't have discussed your car with other members. I know better than that and I apologize. It just came up when we were talking about how strong your car runs...my bad!!!!
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Originally Posted by Hammer Down
take a look at the 60',330' and the 1/8 he is quicker by a tad which would explain his 11.6 vs 11.7 and both speeds were 121+ math doesn't lie the two runs were almost identical.

60-130 hmmm not sure about that as I can't risk the ticket like some could due to my class A commercial license.
Actually, the controversy with Sacramento's trap speed numbers come from the last 60 feet. Some say the beams were set too close together after the major accident a year or so ago. This (apparently) causes the final trap speed to read higher than they actually are since the speed would average over a shorter distance. I think Mikes earlier numbers indicated this and Alan's latest VBox numbers confirm it. My guess is that it's only off by 2 mph at 120 mph and maybe 3 mph at 130 mph.... at least based on what I experienced with my car, but then again, every car is different.

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not sure if anyone cares anymore, but here is a video a guy shot of my pass

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not sure if anyone cares anymore, but here is a video a guy shot of my pass

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Great pass! Of course we care
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I've run 121.6 with stock 6yr old filters when I raced against Alan
So the secret ingredient is neglect, then? Who knew...
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So the secret ingredient is neglect, then? Who knew...
weird huh? I asked my tech about getting new ones and he took a look at them and said that they were fine, they have 10k miles on them
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