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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 06:53 PM
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Sunir, If you are at the track with all the racers you mentioned, you are in damn good hands my friend..

Here is what happens, pull back tires into water box and brake TQ tires. They start to spin (if lucky a small amount of smoke) and then just bog down to almost a stop.. Let off and try again and wheels will barley spin.. This is in the water!
whoa thats crazy! I'll have to see if my car does that next time. did u take the traction control off? What settings did you have...on the ABC and the mode (sport?)
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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It looks something like this Sunir....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzoLAAsRUM4

Nice run Brooke! I'm glad to see you're finally starting to have fun with the beast.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bassn_07
It looks something like this Sunir....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzoLAAsRUM4

Nice run Brooke! I'm glad to see you're finally starting to have fun with the beast.
Ah ok so it actually bogs during the burnout! So how do you correct this or get around this? My Sl55 is an 03 maybe it's an early enough build like Sal's that may not have a bogging issue, I dunno

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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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Ah ok so it actually bogs during the burnout! So how do you correct this or get around this? My Sl55 is an 03 maybe it's an early enough build like Sal's that may not have a bogging issue, I dunno
I have not figured out a good solution yet.. I try and get the tires as hot as possible but that is 50/50 at best.. I want a solution that works on the street and track, not just a track fix for a good ET.. I like to know if I run a low 11 or hopefully a ten soon, that I am also that fast driving to and from the track, or anytime in between..

When I find a fix, I will surely let you know..
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 10:41 PM
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Just curious Brooke why you never tried going all out and running er in dyno mode. She will roast the tires for sure, but I agree, it could scary fast if she starts getting wiggly.

Higginsbeach had it down so fast that he would roast the tires in the box in dyno mode, then quickly take her out of dyno and hit the starting line. Not sure how he did it that fast!??
If you're still on the dyno mode menu in the cluster, all it takes is a quick push of a button, shift into neutral, kill engine and fire up, drop into gear and you're ready to roll again.

If you practice a couple times it shouldn't take more than 5 seconds at best.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Exotic-metal55
I have not figured out a good solution yet.. I try and get the tires as hot as possible but that is 50/50 at best.. I want a solution that works on the street and track, not just a track fix for a good ET.. I like to know if I run a low 11 or hopefully a ten soon, that I am also that fast driving to and from the track, or anytime in between..

When I find a fix, I will surely let you know..
Is there any difference in the speed you slam the throttle? My car only allows a burnout if I stomp the throttle like I'm trying to break it. The rest of the time it spins for a few seconds then dies down to idle, exactly the same as you described.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 10:57 PM
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Ah ok so it actually bogs during the burnout! So how do you correct this or get around this? My Sl55 is an 03 maybe it's an early enough build like Sal's that may not have a bogging issue, I dunno
Sunir...

I was able to do a long smokey burnout with your car (I'm sure you remember ) by doing the following:

1. Back into the water box
2. Chirp the tires just to get them wet, and move in front of the water box
3. ESP off, tranny in sport, with "D" selected.
4. Left foot on brake, roll on to throttle then stab it, forcing rear wheels to break loose.
5. After 2-3 seconds of static burnout, release brake pedal, keeping the accelerator mashed, and spin out of the burnout.

6. Enjoy the show.

Your car never bogged on me, during any burnouts. I felt like I could've sat there, static, and roasted those poor Toyos.

Normally, I don't get street tires wet at all, but the very first run, I got them damp. On the other 5 or 6 runs, I just did the burnout without ever touching the water box.

Bukasa's E55 acted in a similar fashion.

Us poor 600 guys, don't have the luxury of doing static burnouts. We need to flip into dyno mode to do it.

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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 10:59 PM
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Awesome run, Brooke!
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Thanks!

Why woul you race in comfort? The car starts out in second gear in comfort mode and shifts like marshmellows rubbing together..
Brooke,

Sunir was referring to the raised suspension setting, and ABC sport off. I suggested for him to set the transmission to sport, but probably also said comfort suspension setting, which is a setting in the W211s, similar to our ABC sport set to "off". Raising the suspension will help with weight transfer during launch.

His car ran a bunch of back to back to back 12.0x's with just a shelf tune. Strong car.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 09:22 AM
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Brooke,

Sunir was referring to the raised suspension setting, and ABC sport off. I suggested for him to set the transmission to sport, but probably also said comfort suspension setting, which is a setting in the W211s, similar to our ABC sport set to "off". Raising the suspension will help with weight transfer during launch.

His car ran a bunch of back to back to back 12.0x's with just a shelf tune. Strong car.
My bad, I mis-read that.. Like I said, he is in damn good hands with all your help up there..

I race with suspension all the way up too, manual tranny mode and TC off.. ECU will over-ride manual shift and shift anyway and ECU/TCU will override TC off , when it smells some spin..

I plan to try and run in sport shift mode again, as my 2-3 shift in manual bogged/slipped some on the one 11.22 run. Looking over my time slips, I was 3 mph faster at the 1/8th than before but only 1.5 mph faster in the finish.. That shift seem to hurt about 1 to 1.5 mph on that run.. Part of the problems with not be allowed to make multiple runs (no roll cage yet ).. I used manual shift mode at the Texas mile for ther first time and plan to test both ways at the 1/4 mile track.. I only ran in sport shift mods in past years..
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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Clay good to know that my car didn't bog at all...it is an '03 and it may be an early build like Sal's car. I too don't recall setting to dyno mode or anything like that...next time lets do the sneaky ECU reset and put the other settings to where they need to be and run 'er. Hopefully she'll run strong and we can get some good DA and temps at MIR.

Brooke, I am fortunate to have guys like BOR, Ahmad, Jay and the bunch out here...we have awesome track days and everyone has fun. It's a great place to learn and the camraderie honesty is just as fun if not more so as the actual track time...to me it's a day to hang out with buddies and every now and then a drag race breaks out lol
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