lorie

This should be a summary for gains of different mods...

I´m interested in following gains (numbers):

82mm tb:
kleemann cams:
supersprint long headers:
full cat delete:
168er pulley with ECU:

Thanks for reply!

AKnight55

https://mbworld.org/forums/engine-pe...ulley-e55.html

lorie

@moderator

Please delete this thread! (twice)

@andrew
I don´t want to buy a pulley!!! I´m looking for numbers! (gains)

shardul

iTrader: (1)

i will not quantiy the gain here becasue it will start an argument here but i can priortize the order of the approx rwhp gained

82mm tb:3
kleemann cams:4
supersprint long headers: 2
full cat delete: 5
168er pulley with ECU: 1

E55Bullet

And of course that's an opinion as well, some are saying that headers and cat delete should be numero uno!

But I did it in the order that Shardul said

Ill give it my best guess from seeing everyone else's transformations:

82mm 20-30
Kleemann cams 15
headers 30-40
cat delete- should go with headers
pulley and tune 50-70

AMGV855

Are those estimate gain numbers at the crank or wheel??

lorie

I think rwhp!

E55Bullet

wheel

ahmad0658

TB 82mm TTM gave me 33 rwhp without tune and after the tune 47 rwhp. Believe it or not my friend but that are dyno numbers fact and same dyno all time.

E55Bullet

good for you! That's awesome that you gained that much! I was just giving a generalization of hp to expect. And a lot can tribute to dynos, air temp, DA, how hot the car is at the time and the list goes on!

TTMotorsports

We quote 35rwhp with a TTM 82mm TB Kit but have seen 40+rwhp.

blackbenzz

So does a TTM kit make more power than other kits?

skratch77

I didnt pick up any power with an 82tb on her,Honeslty.

If I were to do it all over again it would be.

kleemann headers with primary cats deleted
Heat exchanger
Tune
168-178 pulley

TTMotorsports

I am not too concerned with other kits. Just our kit and the numbers have been very consistent.

TTMotorsports

Angelo-
You had the worst 82mm kit available and you always had numerous codes so your car not making power doesn't surprise me.

shardul

iTrader: (1)

TTM nice gains with the 82mm kit.
Were the gains recognized with a tune and 82mm kit

Rust bucket

what kit did he have?

blackbenzz

In my experience as long as you use a MB throttle body all the kits are almost the same besides their appearance (TTM has very clean look ). As long as you port the sc inlet to 82mm then they should all flow the same regardless of appearance. There is just something to be said about the clean look! 35whp for a 82mm TB upgrade is ALOT! I hope I gained that much lol

shardul

iTrader: (1)

i have a MB 82mm tb sitting on my desk for months. I have been reading on the kennebell website (they have some good info) as per them a 74mm is good for upto 600rwhp befre it starts to be a restriction. What do you all think about this?
I plan to attach a vaccum gauge to see how much vaccum it is pulling in 3 rd gear on the dyno and then do the same test with a car that has a 82mm TB.

TTMotorsports

Thanks Shardul. Usually in conjunction with a tune we see these gains but it also has a lot to do with the pulley size and exhaust mods.

I'll let Angelo answer that.

Thanks Ahmad. You are always 100% point on with your information and observations. Using 100% MB parts and port matching are the keys for maximum gains. Knowing the way you always try and reinvent the wheel when you make your own parts, I am sure you are at ~35whp.

You should see what we are doing to the inside of the TB housing now!

Rust bucket

Whos that? Angelo didn't make the comment you did.

TTMotorsports

The same company that blew up your car!

Rust bucket

Considering my car has never blown up what company would that be?

blackbenzz

Can't wait to see what you are up to now! We need more power options!!!

skratch77

All the posts got deleted,but the mess I went threw with my 82tb makes my sick to my stomach even reading people installing them.

I can see it picking up maybe 10-12whp on my car now with a retune but Im happy with the power its making now.

Maybe down the road Ill go with a bigger sc inlet and use a bored out stock or an 80mm tb.