MB_Forever

I will be very disappointed if the new PSS has lower grip rating than the PS2...

Augenstein1

Just hurled a set on my son's C63. 245/40s in front and 275/35s on the rear. Both on stock 18 inch rims. I only have a few miles on them, but can attest that they're quiet, and feel very solid in "spirited", but less than flat out cornering. Likewise, a fairly aggressive launch just hooks and goes, compared to the stock-size PS2s (and the previous Pirellis) which would cheerfully vaporize under more-or-less similar conditions.

Likewise, grabbing second gear and flooring it at 50 just has the car hooking up, where it previously had hissy fits (this car is chipped).

They ride a little better than than the previous Pirelli/Michelin combo, but then again, they're at full tread.

So far, very impressive, but my son gets back from Afghanistan later this month, and that's when these sneakers get their full baptism of fire.

WayneE

Really happy with the Hankooks so far. Excellent dry and wet handling, very quiet.

skratch77

Well my wheel guy emailed me and told me my f14s are in and asked if I wanted to switch from the ps2s and try the pilot super sports and I went with the pss.I will let you guys know how they feel.

James@ACG

We've installed three sets of PSS' on C63's two have had positive feedback, the 3rd hasn't drive his vehicle yet.

Let me know if we can help any of you guys with tires, we can beat or match tirerack on both the Michelin and hankook tires.

James@ACG

JamE55

James,

Maybe you might have a better insider information as to if/and/or when Michelin will have a 285/30/19 size in the PSS? Having a hard time getting a concrete answer from those guys. Let me know.

Thanks

novae500

i have hankooks on my dd and like them for the weather around here.

MB_Forever

So is there any official rating showing whether the PSS rates the same, better, or worse than the PS2s in terms only of dry weather grip? It makes sense that if they increased tread-life by using a harder compound that they would have sacrificed a little bit of grip

James@ACG

That tire size hasn't been released yet, but I will find out for you in two weeks when I play golf with one of the michelin reps.

I will let you know

JamE55

Awesome! Yes please keep me posted.

220S

You'd think that's the case. But according to Michelin it has better dry grip and the better wear is due primarily to using a material called Twaron. And then there's a variable patch configuration that supposedly also increases grip while reducing heat (and allows for better tread wear.) So, we'll have to see if that's all true....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ChkX...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ODzn...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs6oh...eature=related

"Michelin's in-house testing, performed at the Michelin Technology Center, helped identify six key areas in which the Michelin Pilot Super Sport outperforms its predecessor, the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2:

* Road-holding on dry surfaces: Tests showed a 1.5-second gain on a 2,700-meter closed-circuit track.
* Braking on dry surfaces: When decelerating from 100 km/h to a full stop, braking distance was shortened by 1.5 meters.
* Road-holding on wet surfaces: Time was reduced by 2.5 seconds on a 4,100-meter closed-circuit track.
* Braking on wet roads: When decelerating from 80 to 10 km/h, braking distance was shortened by 3 meters.
* Total mileage on the track: 50% more laps.
* Total mileage on the road: 10% greater distance.

WayneE

Good to know for future purchases. Thanks, James.

m_berman

The Hankooks max speed rating is only Y. The 030 performance package option on my CLS 55 requires (Y). The parenthesis gives it a higher speed rating ( 200+ mph) than the non parenthesis. The PS2s complies with MB required tire rating of (Y) as well as XL [extra load).

Why spend $100K + on a car and skimp on a few dollars savings for tires?
I like to have the best and will pay for it as well as the highest rated tire on the market.

In comparison, the PS2s are better in cornering and noise than the stock MBs. It is worth the xtra $$$.

m_berman

Is ACG an authorized Michelin Dealer? If not, it becomes a big burden for tire warranty claims. PS2 and PS A/W are known for chunking rubber, a big issue for Michelin .That may be the reason for changing their rubber compound for the successor to the PS2
.

James@ACG

By purchasing through direct Michelin distributors all of our customers have no issues with warranty claims.

WayneE

Having the best isn't the same as paying for a name. The Hankooks put up numbers close enough to a PS2 that you wouldn't know the difference on my E63 estate.



"... than the stock MBs." Are you referring to the stock Continentals? If so, yes I agree. The PS2s (and Hankooks) are much better tires than the stock Contis. However, I did run my best times in my 06 E55 on the stock Contis

Having owned PS2s on my last E* AMG (as well as Nittos and Contis), I don't think the PS2s are worth the $$$ over the V12s I have on my current E* AMG.

After living with the V12s for a month, I'd definitely buy another set for this car. Quiet, excellent cornering, great from a dig, good ride quality for 19s.

Finally, I'm semi-retired and I have 5 cars - I try to save $$ on consumables where it doesn't affect performance