Where to buy transmission fluid??
#51
Need to change the conductor plate in my 2004 e500 and doing research. It looks like there are a few compatible oils listed on this thread. I want to do a few short mileage cycles between the next couple of oil changes to "flush" the transmission. It looks like valvoline maxlife, shell atf, and fuchs titan 4134 will all work. Has anyone on here actually run the maxlife in a 722.9?
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Need to change the conductor plate in my 2004 e500 and doing research. It looks like there are a few compatible oils listed on this thread. I want to do a few short mileage cycles between the next couple of oil changes to "flush" the transmission. It looks like valvoline maxlife, shell atf, and fuchs titan 4134 will all work. Has anyone on here actually run the maxlife in a 722.9?
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevoli...nt_action=show
Besides, Shell ATF 134 isn't that much when you get it from a shell distributor. Around $60 for a case of 12 quarts.
http://www.shell.us/business-custome...RzL3B1YmxpYy8=
#53
Maxlife isn't actually on the list of approved 236.14 oils. Shell ATF 134 and Fuchs Titan are on the list. I would only use an oil that's on their approved list. Valvoline actually has some other fluid that's on the approved list, but not Maxlife. It might be ok as most automakers charge a fee to be on their certified list but why spend money on a fluid where the fluid maker is too cheap to have it on the approved list of the auto manufacturer?
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevoli...nt_action=show
Besides, Shell ATF 134 isn't that much when you get it from a shell distributor. Around $60 for a case of 12 quarts.
http://www.shell.us/business-custome...RzL3B1YmxpYy8=
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevoli...nt_action=show
Besides, Shell ATF 134 isn't that much when you get it from a shell distributor. Around $60 for a case of 12 quarts.
http://www.shell.us/business-custome...RzL3B1YmxpYy8=
Great information Cetialpha5, thank you for sharing!
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It's too bad there wasn't one closer to you, it's probably the shipping charge that gets you up to $8 a quart. Still better than the $20 or so the dealer probably charges. Some distributors have multiple locations, but that shell site just lists their headquarters so you have to go to each distributor's website and see if they have any local offices.
#56
Yeah, I was a little surprised at the price after reading about the $60 a case people have been getting on here. Without shipping it was still $6.33/quart. With shipping it's only a few cents cheaper than Amazon. Oh well, as you say, it's still better than buying MB oil or even Fuchs. There must be some extra tax in NV or something. Shell has 2 distributor locations in Nevada and they're both at the opposite side of the state from me.
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722.6 is the code for the 5 speed transmission, 722.9 is the 7 speed in the E63.
236.10, 236.14 are the codes for the minimum specifications for the fluids they use. The later designation is newer and supersedes the earlier ones.
236.10, 236.14 are the codes for the minimum specifications for the fluids they use. The later designation is newer and supersedes the earlier ones.
#60
OK, well, some updates.
I spoke in depth with Chris from Royal Purple.
First off, Royal Purple is aware of the confusion on their site/bottles and they have already changed the bottle labeling. All new bottles now going out the door state 722.6 236.12 (NAG1) and prior compatible. Notice not 236.14.
As stated here and elsewhere, those that have used the NEW MB OEM fluid have noticed shifting issues/soft shift ,etc when doing a complete flush in their 722.6 236.12 and prior transmissions. There is a reason for this.
The new MB OEM fluid is a lower viscosity fluid for fuel consumption purposes. MB states it is backwards compatible with the older transmissions such as the 5sp units, with the added issue of softer shifts,etc......
The Royal Purple viscosity is comparable to the older 5sp MB fluid which many seem to favor over the new MB fluid in the 5sp trans.
So if I were to throw something out there, the Royal Purple is a better fluid for the older 5sp transmissions vs. the new MB fluid. Makes sense?
Not enough field testing exist yet on the older viscosity fluid in the newer 722.9 transmission to allow them to place a stamp of approval on the product.
I spoke in depth with Chris from Royal Purple.
First off, Royal Purple is aware of the confusion on their site/bottles and they have already changed the bottle labeling. All new bottles now going out the door state 722.6 236.12 (NAG1) and prior compatible. Notice not 236.14.
As stated here and elsewhere, those that have used the NEW MB OEM fluid have noticed shifting issues/soft shift ,etc when doing a complete flush in their 722.6 236.12 and prior transmissions. There is a reason for this.
The new MB OEM fluid is a lower viscosity fluid for fuel consumption purposes. MB states it is backwards compatible with the older transmissions such as the 5sp units, with the added issue of softer shifts,etc......
The Royal Purple viscosity is comparable to the older 5sp MB fluid which many seem to favor over the new MB fluid in the 5sp trans.
So if I were to throw something out there, the Royal Purple is a better fluid for the older 5sp transmissions vs. the new MB fluid. Makes sense?
Not enough field testing exist yet on the older viscosity fluid in the newer 722.9 transmission to allow them to place a stamp of approval on the product.