W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

Intercooler Pump you didn't know about

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rating: Thread Rating: 4 votes, 5.00 average.
 
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 11:47 AM
  #1  
MBH motorsports's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor of MBWorld
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,305
Likes: 93
From: Valley of the Sun, Arizona
C63, SL55, E55, CLS55, ML63, C55
Intercooler Pump you didn't know about

After some long nights taking with the manufacture Pierburg Pump Technology. I've tracked down a pump that has amazing flow numbers. This pump was sitting right under our noses.. Who would think to check an N/A motor for a pump that can be used in our supercharged 55s,65's,600's,32's and what not? My research has pionted me to the Mercedes SLS AMG.

Pierburg is the company that makes the stout pump used in new BMW V8 Twin Turbo'ed cars. Only problem is that pump is kind of small. Yet it has pretty good flow numbers at 7.9GPM. So if you think 7.9GPM is good enough for you. You can walk into a BMW dealer and pick that pump up for about $250 or so.

Now if you want something that flows even more? You look to the SLS Mercedes. I know its an N/A powered car, but Mercedes seen a need to put a powerful cooling pump on it. Able to flow 10.56GPM!

Only down side is, its slightly pricey. Retailing from the dealer at about $500.

Below you will see a picture of the pump used on the Mercedes SLS. It has a very strong resemblance to the BMW pump (will post that pumps picture too). Reason? The Mercedes SLS pump is made by the same Mfg that makes the BMW pump. Except the pump used in the SLS is the BMW pumps big brother.

So if you want a really stout pump? I'm going to give you the part number so you can call your local dealer and order one up.

Mercedes SLS cooling pump Part number: A 000 500 04 86


CWA100.2 pump, used in the Mercedes SLS AMG
Intercooler Pump you didn't know about-cwa1002pump.png



CWA50 pump, used In the BMW V8TT.
Intercooler Pump you didn't know about-cwa50_1of21.jpg
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 11:56 AM
  #2  
BenzoBoi's Avatar
Super Moderator
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 11,664
Likes: 3
From: SoCal
W221
Nice find! Now who's going to be the guinea pig...
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 11:57 AM
  #3  
MBH motorsports's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor of MBWorld
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,305
Likes: 93
From: Valley of the Sun, Arizona
C63, SL55, E55, CLS55, ML63, C55
Originally Posted by BenzoBoi
Nice find! Now who's going to be the guinea pig...

Me! I got one on order.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 12:11 PM
  #4  
MBH motorsports's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor of MBWorld
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,305
Likes: 93
From: Valley of the Sun, Arizona
C63, SL55, E55, CLS55, ML63, C55
Here is some info I got from the dealer



Intercooler Pump you didn't know about-pumpdrawing2.jpg
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 12:13 PM
  #5  
GT-ER's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 4,173
Likes: 7
From: Puerto Rico
2005 E55 AMG
I'm more worried about flowing water too quickly on my stockish setup ( only my H/E is upgraded ). This would be fantastic though on a rear tank setup.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 12:14 PM
  #6  
shardul's Avatar
Former Vendor of MBWorld
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 12,139
Likes: 295
From: Houston
2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600
Meziere WP136s has been tested and tried. Flows at 20 gpm work very will with a larger heat exchanger and cost is 199.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 12:18 PM
  #7  
GT-ER's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 4,173
Likes: 7
From: Puerto Rico
2005 E55 AMG
Originally Posted by shardul
Meziere WP136s has been tested and tried. Flows at 20 gpm work very will with a larger heat exchanger and cost is 199.
There you go.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 12:33 PM
  #8  
aghakauve's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,452
Likes: 21
From: Houston, TX
GLC63s, W222 S63, W223 S580
Originally Posted by shardul
Meziere WP136s has been tested and tried. Flows at 20 gpm work very will with a larger heat exchanger and cost is 199.
Great find! But Shardul is right, I run the Meziere pump with out any issues. This whole week in Houston the temps have been 99-102 degrees and so far no heat soak even when I get a heavy foot.
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 12:37 PM
  #9  
MBH motorsports's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor of MBWorld
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,305
Likes: 93
From: Valley of the Sun, Arizona
C63, SL55, E55, CLS55, ML63, C55
I've always wondered why no one has used the Jabsco Pumps that can for 20gpm. I know of at least 1 Audi tuner that uses a Jabsco pump.

I have a Meziere pump, but I've never used it. I'd let it go for $100
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 12:43 PM
  #10  
MBH motorsports's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor of MBWorld
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,305
Likes: 93
From: Valley of the Sun, Arizona
C63, SL55, E55, CLS55, ML63, C55
Originally Posted by aghakauve
Great find! But Shardul is right, I run the Meziere pump with out any issues. This whole week in Houston the temps have been 99-102 degrees and so far no heat soak even when I get a heavy foot.
Keep in mind, I'm not trying to sell the Pierburg pump used on the SLS. Rather give folks something that they can go to the dealer and get. if thats the road they choose to go down.

I think People would be pissed if someone tried to sell them this pump at a higher price than what the common man can get it at.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 01:08 PM
  #11  
aghakauve's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,452
Likes: 21
From: Houston, TX
GLC63s, W222 S63, W223 S580
Originally Posted by MBH motorsports
Keep in mind, I'm not trying to sell the Pierburg pump used on the SLS. Rather give folks something that they can go to the dealer and get. if thats the road they choose to go down.

I think People would be pissed if someone tried to sell them this pump at a higher price than what the common man can get it at.

I know it was a great find, but for more flow and less than half the price I would say the Meziere pump is bang for your buck.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 01:12 PM
  #12  
Benz-O-Rama's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 8,137
Likes: 26
From: Maryland
Eurocharged 2004 E500, Eurocharged ECU/TCU 2005 SL600, 2010 Caddy SwaggerWagon
Any benefits to a higher flow pump, with a completely stock cooling circuit? Talking about my V12TT here.

Last edited by Benz-O-Rama; Aug 10, 2011 at 01:19 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 01:18 PM
  #13  
Bramage's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,909
Likes: 4
From: San Diego
F-250
Originally Posted by MBH motorsports
Keep in mind, I'm not trying to sell the Pierburg pump used on the SLS. Rather give folks something that they can go to the dealer and get. if thats the road they choose to go down.

I think People would be pissed if someone tried to sell them this pump at a higher price than what the common man can get it at.
I can not REmber aNy oNe Trying to gEt CHarged extra for something availible elsewhere

Ill take your Meziere for a C Note (dibs?)
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 01:19 PM
  #14  
Benz-O-Rama's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 8,137
Likes: 26
From: Maryland
Eurocharged 2004 E500, Eurocharged ECU/TCU 2005 SL600, 2010 Caddy SwaggerWagon
Originally Posted by Bramage
I can not REmber aNy oNe Trying to gEt CHarged extra for something availible elsewhere

Ill take your Meziere for a C Note (dibs?)
HA!

Well played sir, well played.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 01:43 PM
  #15  
MBH motorsports's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor of MBWorld
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,305
Likes: 93
From: Valley of the Sun, Arizona
C63, SL55, E55, CLS55, ML63, C55
Originally Posted by Bramage
I can not REmber aNy oNe Trying to gEt CHarged extra for something availible elsewhere

Ill take your Meziere for a C Note (dibs?)

Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 01:55 PM
  #16  
skratch77's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,697
Likes: 381
2005 E55
So is this the pump renntech is selling for 1500?
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 02:26 PM
  #17  
MBH motorsports's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor of MBWorld
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,305
Likes: 93
From: Valley of the Sun, Arizona
C63, SL55, E55, CLS55, ML63, C55
Here are 3 pumps Pierburg makes.

The pump in the middle(CWA100) I believe has been replaced with the pump at the bottom (CWA100.2).

Pierburg CWA50 (A.K.A BMW pump)

Intercooler Pump you didn't know about-cwa50_1of21-1.jpg

Pierburg CWA100 (you have seen this pump in some pictures, i'm sure) This pump has been replaced with the next pump on the list

Name:  peirburgpumps-1.png
Views: 7855
Size:  90.5 KB

Pierburg CWA100.2 (A.K.A SLS pump)

Intercooler Pump you didn't know about-cwa1002pump-1.png
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 02:44 PM
  #18  
tbal's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,575
Likes: 8
From: BC
Haters crazy
Originally Posted by Bramage
I can not REmber aNy oNe Trying to gEt CHarged extra for something availible elsewhere

Ill take your Meziere for a C Note (dibs?)
LOL bahaah

Bang for the buck I agree with Shardul wp136
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 02:48 PM
  #19  
MBH motorsports's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor of MBWorld
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,305
Likes: 93
From: Valley of the Sun, Arizona
C63, SL55, E55, CLS55, ML63, C55
Just got word this pump can also be found on the Mercedes Sprinter. Not sure what model or year.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 03:16 PM
  #20  
BenzoDoc's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 798
Likes: 4
From: HTX-->ATL -->CHI
2015 E63S 4Matic
Originally Posted by Bramage
I can not REmber aNy oNe Trying to gEt CHarged extra for something availible elsewhere

Ill take your Meziere for a C Note (dibs?)
If you decide you don't want it, I've got second dibs.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 03:21 PM
  #21  
BenzoDoc's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 798
Likes: 4
From: HTX-->ATL -->CHI
2015 E63S 4Matic
Originally Posted by aghakauve
Great find! But Shardul is right, I run the Meziere pump with out any issues. This whole week in Houston the temps have been 99-102 degrees and so far no heat soak even when I get a heavy foot.
Intercooler Pump you didn't know about-qe4q2.jpg

You underestimated a bit...my temps stayed at 109 for like 10 minutes before dropping to 106.



Still pulls harder than a hooker with a time constraint though. I'm convinced Jerry tossed a Houston tune on my car way back when because performance hasn't suffered at all even with this heat.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 03:32 PM
  #22  
Benz-O-Rama's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 8,137
Likes: 26
From: Maryland
Eurocharged 2004 E500, Eurocharged ECU/TCU 2005 SL600, 2010 Caddy SwaggerWagon
Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
Any benefits to a higher flow pump, with a completely stock cooling circuit? Talking about my V12TT here.
Probably just got overlooked, but any idea on this? Any benefit to upgrading pump on stock cooling system?
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 03:42 PM
  #23  
Robert AMG's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,106
Likes: 85
From: Lebanon
Cls63 & C32
Why a n/a engine use an intercooler pump?
Sorry i just read on the graph that is for transmission cooling, so i think all 63 N/A use this pump.

Last edited by Robert AMG; Aug 10, 2011 at 03:46 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 03:51 PM
  #24  
aghakauve's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,452
Likes: 21
From: Houston, TX
GLC63s, W222 S63, W223 S580
Originally Posted by BenzoDoc


You underestimated a bit...my temps stayed at 109 for like 10 minutes before dropping to 106.



Still pulls harder than a hooker with a time constraint though. I'm convinced Jerry tossed a Houston tune on my car way back when because performance hasn't suffered at all even with this heat.
Wow!! Mine was at 110 then dropped to 102 yesterday around 6pm.. I still enjoyed the ride home hahahaha
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 04:33 PM
  #25  
MBH motorsports's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor of MBWorld
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,305
Likes: 93
From: Valley of the Sun, Arizona
C63, SL55, E55, CLS55, ML63, C55
Originally Posted by Robert AMG
Why a n/a engine use an intercooler pump?
Sorry i just read on the graph that is for transmission cooling, so i think all 63 N/A use this pump.
I have some friends at the parts dpt in my local dealer. A cross ref of the number only showed the SLS and the Sprinter to be using this pump. Still not sure what Sprinter though. I'd imagine it would have to be newer then 2009. Since the pump came into production in 2009.
Reply


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 4 votes, 5.00 average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:50 AM.

story-0
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-1
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-4
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE