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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 07:20 PM
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180mm vs Bigger???

So what would be the main benifit of going to a 190 or bigger from a 180? From what I read the power down low on the bigger is stronger however some guys on here said they were loosing MPH at the track with the 190.
The mods on the car that this would be going on would be full bolt on, meaning

Heat Exchanger
Long Tubes
Pump
Secondary tank in the back
(possibly top mount intercoolers)
Injectors
and all the other supporting mods.

This car is not daily driven, drives out only on the weekends from time to time, but I am looking to make the best power possible, I think I'm more concerned with the car pulling harder on the street than RWHP or RWTQ on the dyno (thinking that the 190 will make more but at the track it will MPH slower hmmm)

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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 07:25 PM
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you have a lot of cooling mods so 190mm will be good
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 07:50 PM
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Yes , 190 will rock! Ported heads and a 190 will be real nice. More power with less boost!
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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and don't forget cams if you want max power!

i feel that larger than 180 for street use can be annoying. s/c engagement becomes abrupt and quirky and can get embarrassing when jerking passengers around.
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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180 is great in 60 degree weather,in 90 degree weather you car is trapping like a stock e55
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 08:33 PM
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and don't forget cams if you want max power!

i feel that larger than 180 for street use can be annoying. s/c engagement becomes abrupt and quirky and can get embarrassing when jerking passengers around.
It's bad enough with my pulley as it is.
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 10:35 PM
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Is there really that big of difference in heat between the 180 & the 190?
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So what would be the main benifit of going to a 190 or bigger from a 180? From what I read the power down low on the bigger is stronger however some guys on here said they were loosing MPH at the track with the 190.
The mods on the car that this would be going on would be full bolt on, meaning

Heat Exchanger
Long Tubes
Pump
Secondary tank in the back
(possibly top mount intercoolers)
Injectors
and all the other supporting mods.

This car is not daily driven, drives out only on the weekends from time to time, but I am looking to make the best power possible, I think I'm more concerned with the car pulling harder on the street than RWHP or RWTQ on the dyno (thinking that the 190 will make more but at the track it will MPH slower hmmm)

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190 with heads....

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Heads are another $3500 to get them done correct?
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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you need a 82mm t/b otherwise blowing more hot air into the motor is pointless, I would add meth too.
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Heads are another $3500 to get them done correct?
correct

Originally Posted by chawkins2001
you need a 82mm t/b otherwise blowing more hot air into the motor is pointless, I would add meth too.
great point, missed that he didn't have the 82mm tb on the list...
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Exotic-metal55
Yes , 190 will rock! Ported heads and a 190 will be real nice. More power with less boost!
What does the port job cost on dem heads if I send you mine?
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Price of the heads are 3800.
Craig you can send your heads in but it will tame about 4 weeks to get them done. I don't want to tell you it will be 2 weeks and then it takes more time.
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+1 bro, she's is starving for air!! For real. 82tb with vrp or renntech box and kn filters. You'll freak at how she picks up on top end.
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