W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 09:05 PM
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Picked these up from a forum member not so long ago, Anyone know what brand they are?
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 09:07 PM
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looks like vrp hems...

btw, do NOT run wrap on those unless you want to destroy them!
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 09:09 PM
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Picked these up from a forum member not so long ago, Anyone know what brand they are?
Maybe Renntech
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 09:14 PM
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My vote would be VRP also.
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 09:19 PM
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I once thought VRP but i can't find any pics of VRP that have the same dia. runners for all cylinders like these.
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
looks like vrp hems...

btw, do NOT run wrap on those unless you want to destroy them!
Mickey, what's wrong with wrapping the headers?
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 11:45 PM
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Mickey, what's wrong with wrapping the headers?
the short answer is that wrap will force the metal and welds to retain more heat than they can withstand and cause them to fatigue and fail. it's not worth the unmeasurable gains of keeping exhaust gasses hot to maintain their velocity, especially that close to the combustion chamber. if you need to protect other parts from heat, wrap those parts instead. better stainless steels may not show the effects as quickly but joints/welds are still vulnerable.

i know people will argue the benefits of wrap but i've ruined enough exhaust components and took the time to research why it happened so i'd hate to see people make mistakes i did.
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 11:45 PM
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They almost look like VRP HEMs but there are some differences between OP's set and my past VRPs. I've attached a picture for comparison.
Attached Thumbnails Name that Header-mbw-vrp-hems.jpg  
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 02:51 AM
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Maybe Renntech
My point exactly.

(Just not as shiny)
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 03:05 AM
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maybe VRP replica .


i know VRP made 2 type, SS short headers and the bad ( i don't know which cheap metal ) that used to crack every week.
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 03:30 AM
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Off brand? I had VRP, not them. Not Renntech either.Not Evosport or PLM. Hmmm.. Homemade??

Renntech
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
the short answer is that wrap will force the metal and welds to retain more heat than they can withstand and cause them to fatigue and fail. it's not worth the unmeasurable gains of keeping exhaust gasses hot to maintain their velocity, especially that close to the combustion chamber. if you need to protect other parts from heat, wrap those parts instead. better stainless steels may not show the effects as quickly but joints/welds are still vulnerable.

i know people will argue the benefits of wrap but i've ruined enough exhaust components and took the time to research why it happened so i'd hate to see people make mistakes i did.
Great information Mickey, I was thinking of wrapping my headers at one stage but now after I read what you wrote, no wrapping anymore
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
the short answer is that wrap will force the metal and welds to retain more heat than they can withstand and cause them to fatigue and fail. it's not worth the unmeasurable gains of keeping exhaust gasses hot to maintain their velocity, especially that close to the combustion chamber. if you need to protect other parts from heat, wrap those parts instead. better stainless steels may not show the effects as quickly but joints/welds are still vulnerable.

i know people will argue the benefits of wrap but i've ruined enough exhaust components and took the time to research why it happened so i'd hate to see people make mistakes i did.
Your a god damn wikipedia! Lol
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 10:47 AM
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Your a god damn wikipedia! Lol
lol! i've just been a hp junkie (and a sucker for good marketing) for a long time and have fallen for most of the cheap/free hp myths at one time or another.
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 11:41 AM
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They look a lot like the old Kleeman Short Tube headers
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 12:30 PM
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If you're worried about heat, get them ceramic coated. Should help with longevity and with heat.
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