W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Today is a great day! New motor under warranty!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 04-11-2012, 11:08 AM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Ag02m5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
stuff
Today is a great day! New motor under warranty!

I bought an 07 e63 with 35k miles back in December. The motor had some ticking so I took it by the dealer. He said that it was no big deal and heard much louder.

About 300 miles later the motor went. Maybe related to the ticking, maybe not. One of the valves broke of and impaled itself into the piston which then proceeded to smash against the spark plug.

After waiting for a couple weeks, I got word that MB is going to replace the motor. The car has a Mercedes Benz extended warranty.

Like I said...today is a great day!
Old 04-11-2012, 12:01 PM
  #2  
Member
 
.trunzx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2003 SL55, 1978 280SL, 2007 ML63
This isn't the first time I hear of a 63 dropping a valve. Last time I saw it they also chose to replace the engine (which is $75k without labor). Good thing you have warranty
Old 04-11-2012, 12:03 PM
  #3  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Ag02m5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
stuff
75k when the car was 95k? That doesn't quite add up. I'm thinking closer to 25k for a motor but regardless, I am glad it is not hitting my pocket book!!
Old 04-11-2012, 12:06 PM
  #4  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
AMGPilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: SOCAL
Posts: 1,039
Received 26 Likes on 18 Posts
2004 E55
The 6.3 motor is the same cost as a M113 and it's $26K
Old 04-11-2012, 12:10 PM
  #5  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
novae500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 3,182
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 13 Posts
W211
Agree today was a good day for you
Old 04-11-2012, 12:19 PM
  #6  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
aghakauve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 1,451
Received 18 Likes on 9 Posts
GLC63s, W222 S63, W223 S580
Glad to hear that man.. Still sucks but still good news! Hows that angry bull of yours?
Old 04-11-2012, 12:22 PM
  #7  
Member
 
.trunzx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2003 SL55, 1978 280SL, 2007 ML63
Originally Posted by Ag02m5
75k when the car was 95k? That doesn't quite add up. I'm thinking closer to 25k for a motor but regardless, I am glad it is not hitting my pocket book!!
It's pretty insane but I saw the invoice. The worst part is the car was in the shop for almost 2 months waiting and then the engine swap only took a day or two.
Old 04-11-2012, 12:25 PM
  #8  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
CharlyE500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Socal, Chino
Posts: 4,400
Received 58 Likes on 46 Posts
E55 2006 / CLS55 / S450 / Jag XKR2011
That sucks ! it will take few weeks to replace the engine. I wonder if W211 chassis fit the new TT engine.
Old 04-11-2012, 06:12 PM
  #9  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
xpl0sive's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 1,230
Received 32 Likes on 29 Posts
CLS55 AMG
if the MB warranty really is paying $75k to replace the engine, wouldn't it be cheaper for them to just buy the E63 from the OP? It's an 07, so it's worth $40k-$45k at the most... I know the wordings of my warranty say that if the repair is more than the actual cash value of the vehicle, the warranty company will buy the vehicle instead of repairing it
Old 04-11-2012, 07:17 PM
  #10  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
c32AMG-DTM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 2,949
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2008 A8L, 2002 996TT X50, 2009 X5
Originally Posted by .trunzx
This isn't the first time I hear of a 63 dropping a valve. Last time I saw it they also chose to replace the engine (which is $75k without labor). Good thing you have warranty
I've heard roughly the same for a brand-new M156 crate motor from the dealer (sourced from Germany, obviously). $60-70kish - insanely expensive.

Originally Posted by AMGPilot
The 6.3 motor is the same cost as a M113 and it's $26K
Do you have a source or link? That sounds really odd to me, and is contrary to what I've heard/read elsewhere - the M156 is significantly more advanced than the old M113.

Don't get me wrong, even $26k is a lot for an engine IMHO, but I'd expect the M113 to be a cheaper replacement than an M156.
Old 04-11-2012, 07:38 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
stevieg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 304
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
2007 E63 AMG, 1991 NSX, 2007 Corvette
Wow, that is scary that you would have major trouble like this with such low miles. Great News though that the warranty covered the cost of a new motor. This could be a lucky week for you. Play the lottery !!!
Old 04-11-2012, 07:52 PM
  #12  
Member
 
Firechaser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 223
Received 7 Likes on 3 Posts
2008 GL550
My friend bottomed out his 997 Carrera on a major pothole and cracked the block, it was considered an "accident" and his insurance company totaled the car because a new engine from Porsche was $60K...true story.
Old 04-11-2012, 08:05 PM
  #13  
Member
 
.trunzx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2003 SL55, 1978 280SL, 2007 ML63
Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM
I've heard roughly the same for a brand-new M156 crate motor from the dealer (sourced from Germany, obviously). $60-70kish - insanely expensive.



Do you have a source or link? That sounds really odd to me, and is contrary to what I've heard/read elsewhere - the M156 is significantly more advanced than the old M113.

Don't get me wrong, even $26k is a lot for an engine IMHO, but I'd expect the M113 to be a cheaper replacement than an M156.
26k for a new m113 doesn't sound right to me either. Otherwise why would people buy used ones off ebay with 60k miles between $10-15k when a new one is only 26?
Old 04-11-2012, 08:24 PM
  #14  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
c32AMG-DTM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 2,949
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2008 A8L, 2002 996TT X50, 2009 X5
Originally Posted by .trunzx
26k for a new m113 doesn't sound right to me either. Otherwise why would people buy used ones off ebay with 60k miles between $10-15k when a new one is only 26?
"Only" 26k?

You can buy an entire w211 E55 for $26k, with the M113 Kompressor already in it.
Old 04-11-2012, 09:51 PM
  #15  
Member
 
Pushing_Tin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Eugene, Oregon
Posts: 235
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2007 E63
FWIW the number I have seen tossed about during the class action lawsuit for our engines is $50k plus. Love my car, but when the warranty is up she's getting replaced.
Old 04-11-2012, 10:27 PM
  #16  
Member
 
bamaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Sugar Land, TX
Posts: 184
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2009 Cadillac CTS-V
Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin
FWIW the number I have seen tossed about during the class action lawsuit for our engines is $50k plus. Love my car, but when the warranty is up she's getting replaced.
Fo sho. I got a 4yr warranty on mine... after three years of ownership, I'm selling her.

So does replacing the motor impact the car's valuation? Does it hit CarFax or something like that?
Old 04-11-2012, 10:35 PM
  #17  
Super Moderator
 
BenzoBoi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: SoCal
Posts: 11,664
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
W221
Can't go wrong with a new motor!
Old 04-11-2012, 11:41 PM
  #18  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Toadster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Folsom, CA
Posts: 4,064
Received 34 Likes on 29 Posts
2005 E55 AMG
and they build the new ones like this!

http://www.youtube.com/v/rqAZRwFIyJg
Old 04-12-2012, 06:49 AM
  #19  
Member
 
Firechaser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 223
Received 7 Likes on 3 Posts
2008 GL550
and they build the new ones like this!

http://www.youtube.com/v/rqAZRwFIyJg
It only took 5 minutes to build the engine, why so much
The bottom end looks nice & strong, love them 4 bolt mains!
Old 04-12-2012, 07:36 AM
  #20  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
GT-ER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Puerto Rico
Posts: 4,173
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
2005 E55 AMG
Originally Posted by .trunzx
26k for a new m113 doesn't sound right to me either. Otherwise why would people buy used ones off ebay with 60k miles between $10-15k when a new one is only 26?
I can't believe you just said that. Rarely have I seen an M113K motor go for more than $10K as of lately and that is less than half of a new one, which happens to cost what an ENTIRE E55 costs nowadays.

Last edited by GT-ER; 04-12-2012 at 07:39 AM.
Old 04-12-2012, 04:58 PM
  #21  
Member
 
.trunzx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2003 SL55, 1978 280SL, 2007 ML63
Originally Posted by GT-ER
I can't believe you just said that. Rarely have I seen an M113K motor go for more than $10K as of lately and that is less than half of a new one, which happens to cost what an ENTIRE E55 costs nowadays.
http://www.ebay.de/itm/M113-990-M113...item19cf04804a
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-orig...item45fe7e0730
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-Benz...item3cbfa3df62

None on ebay.com at the moment but 10-15k is pretty standard on what they go for.
Plus I was speaking relatively, paying 26k new relative to 60-70k at the dealer is a bargain, regardless what a used e55 costs. Not to mention that the cars depreciation has little impact on the price of parts. A 10 year old benz can still carry 90k parts prices.
Old 04-12-2012, 05:53 PM
  #22  
Junior Member
 
Ibis 2.0T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Audi A3
I've heard of ML63's cratering and I was told the cost was $55K for the motor.
Old 04-12-2012, 08:32 PM
  #23  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
GT-ER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Puerto Rico
Posts: 4,173
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
2005 E55 AMG
Originally Posted by .trunzx
http://www.ebay.de/itm/M113-990-M113...item19cf04804a
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-orig...item45fe7e0730
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-Benz...item3cbfa3df62

None on ebay.com at the moment but 10-15k is pretty standard on what they go for.
Plus I was speaking relatively, paying 26k new relative to 60-70k at the dealer is a bargain, regardless what a used e55 costs. Not to mention that the cars depreciation has little impact on the price of parts. A 10 year old benz can still carry 90k parts prices.
You just need to learn how to search on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMG-ENGINE-5...ht_4261wt_1181
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8843-MERCEDE...#ht_1516wt_948

How's $5,500-$6,500 sound?

Again, anyone who pays $26K for a stock engine in a car that is valued at $26K is simply retarded, why even mention it? It's still 5 times more than a used engine and it's still in a $26K car.
Old 04-12-2012, 10:00 PM
  #24  
Member
 
.trunzx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2003 SL55, 1978 280SL, 2007 ML63
Originally Posted by GT-ER
You just need to learn how to search on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMG-ENGINE-5...ht_4261wt_1181
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8843-MERCEDE...#ht_1516wt_948

How's $5,500-$6,500 sound?

Again, anyone who pays $26K for a stock engine in a car that is valued at $26K is simply retarded, why even mention it? It's still 5 times more than a used engine and it's still in a $26K car.
94k miles Find a clean one with under 50k miles. After shipping and tax or duties a decent low mileage engine is going to be around 10k. A couple years ago the cheapest you'd find was 10k easy.

Why are you still talking about used e55's? I'll repeat myself and say I was referring to the price of a new engine that's roughly 60-70k new. If you can find a new engine for 26k that IS a bargain compared to the new price AND a better value than 10-15k for a used engine. The only reason I brought up the 10-15k vs 26k is because I was questioning the 26k price to begin with (as a new engine is probably closer to 60k anyway).
Old 04-12-2012, 11:52 PM
  #25  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
GT-ER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Puerto Rico
Posts: 4,173
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
2005 E55 AMG
Originally Posted by .trunzx
94k miles Find a clean one with under 50k miles. After shipping and tax or duties a decent low mileage engine is going to be around 10k. A couple years ago the cheapest you'd find was 10k easy.

Why are you still talking about used e55's? I'll repeat myself and say I was referring to the price of a new engine that's roughly 60-70k new. If you can find a new engine for 26k that IS a bargain compared to the new price AND a better value than 10-15k for a used engine. The only reason I brought up the 10-15k vs 26k is because I was questioning the 26k price to begin with (as a new engine is probably closer to 60k anyway).
LOL...If you say so.


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 1 votes, 5.00 average.

Quick Reply: Today is a great day! New motor under warranty!



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:01 PM.