W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

--he wishes it is an AMG eater--

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rating: Thread Rating: 5 votes, 5.00 average.
 
Old 06-07-2012, 01:23 PM
  #51  
Junior Member
 
Legaskull Nanee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Urinal
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Balsa Plane
Originally Posted by DVC
Pretty big difference in torque though.
Good point but from a roll (especially a higher MPH) I don't think it the lack of tq would hinder the 3 series that badly.

I like both cars, I just want to see some video either way
Old 06-07-2012, 01:26 PM
  #52  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
justinwrock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 1,558
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Ducati
My friend and I talk about this quite a bit - the E46M3 in the quarter mile vs 60-130.


Seems that they don't quite have the suspension geometry to put all that power down to the ground in the quarter, and just spin quite a bit at launch. The majority of the high-powered forced induction M3s are running low 11s in the mid 130s! IMO, should be in the 10s.

Now 60-130, thats a different story...

Last edited by justinwrock; 06-07-2012 at 01:28 PM.
Old 06-07-2012, 01:27 PM
  #53  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
moosejaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,692
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts
none
Guys the last time we invited some N54/N55 guys over
It didn't turn out so well and the thread was deleted.
Just race and see who is faster.

I personally dont want to see another 335i vs all AMGs debate like the last time.
It was really obnoxious with a 3 series guy comparing his car to the CL Coupe bc the CLK Coupe didn't measure up to his standards.

I can tell you a E46 M3 vs C32/C55 is a drivers race. A blown E46 325i with 440 to the wheels would put it over 510 crank hp. Maybe 300-350 lbs difference between a E55K and a 3 series. The AA kit don't put out a lot of boost tho' i think like 8lbs at the most. So they will give out on top end.

Hey BMW N00bs do you know my fake doctor buddy aka Slick44 on Bimmerfest?
Old 06-07-2012, 01:51 PM
  #54  
Junior Member
 
Legaskull Nanee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Urinal
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Balsa Plane
Originally Posted by moosejaw
Guys the last time we invited some N54/N55 guys over
It didn't turn out so well and the thread was deleted.
Just race and see who is faster.

I personally dont want to see another 335i vs all AMGs debate like the last time.
It was really obnoxious with a 3 series guy comparing his car to the CL Coupe bc the CLK Coupe didn't measure up to his standards.

I can tell you a E46 M3 vs C32/C55 is a drivers race. A blown E46 325i with 440 to the wheels would put it over 510 crank hp. Maybe 300-350 lbs difference between a E55K and a 3 series. The AA kit don't put out a lot of boost tho' i think like 8lbs at the most. So they will give out on top end.

Hey BMW N00bs do you know my fake doctor buddy aka Slick44 on Bimmerfest?
I don't drive either car so I'm a neutral party. Have been a forum onlooker for years even got banned a few times (no that isn't a joke). All I'm saying is this E46 is apparently no joke and would definitely stack up quite nicely against a STOCK e55 possibly even tip toeing away. That being said, I'm all but certain any modded 55k would wax this thing pretty well.

Also your 300-350 lbs weight difference seems noticeably off unless supercharger kit adds a ton of extra lbs which could be possible.
Old 06-07-2012, 01:52 PM
  #55  
Junior Member
 
Legaskull Nanee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Urinal
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Balsa Plane
Like I said I'm just in for some footage.
Old 06-07-2012, 01:58 PM
  #56  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
AKnight55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NH
Posts: 6,750
Received 90 Likes on 71 Posts
2012 C63 BS & 2014 E63 Estate & 2008 CLK63 BS
Those rear tires look like skinnies bro.. Good luck putting all that power to the ground
Old 06-07-2012, 02:16 PM
  #57  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
moosejaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,692
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts
none
Originally Posted by Legaskull Nanee
Also your 300-350 lbs weight difference seems noticeably off unless supercharger kit adds a ton of extra lbs which could be possible.
you are correct E46's curb weight check in at 3400 lbs, i thought it was more like 3600 like the C32. E55's curb weight (without pano) are 3,900 lbs.
A SC on a E46 could add 100lbs +/-
Old 06-07-2012, 02:18 PM
  #58  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
moosejaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,692
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts
none
Originally Posted by AMG EATR
AMG SLS
C63 AMG
E55 AMG
CLS 63 AMG
SL55 AMG
C32 AMG with upgrades
How did you fare against these cars?
Old 06-07-2012, 02:36 PM
  #59  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
cahiil55k's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,044
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
211-55
Originally Posted by Legaskull Nanee
Judging by his HP numbers and taking in to consideration how much lighter his car is then your's, probably won't turn out to well for you.
Peak hp doesn't mean much without a good hp curve (which the orange frankenstein 325ci does not have). Also, they used STD correction factor. STD and DIN correction factors are for dyno queens. Lastly, 0-60 in almost 5 seconds and 0-124 in nearly 15 is not going to eat many AMGs on this forum.
Old 06-07-2012, 02:37 PM
  #60  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
CharlyE500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Socal, Chino
Posts: 4,396
Received 58 Likes on 46 Posts
E55 2006 / CLS55 / S450 / Jag XKR2011
Originally Posted by moosejaw
Guys the last time we invited some N54/N55 guys over
It didn't turn out so well and the thread was deleted.
Just race and see who is faster.

I personally dont want to see another 335i vs all AMGs debate like the last time.
It was really obnoxious with a 3 series guy comparing his car to the CL Coupe bc the CLK Coupe didn't measure up to his standards.

I can tell you a E46 M3 vs C32/C55 is a drivers race. A blown E46 325i with 440 to the wheels would put it over 510 crank hp. Maybe 300-350 lbs difference between a E55K and a 3 series. The AA kit don't put out a lot of boost tho' i think like 8lbs at the most. So they will give out on top end.

Hey BMW N00bs do you know my fake doctor buddy aka Slick44 on Bimmerfest?
Slick might be in SL55 section now
Old 06-07-2012, 02:42 PM
  #61  
Newbie
 
AMG EATR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Boosted E46
Originally Posted by cahiil55k
Peak hp doesn't mean much without a good hp curve (which the orange frankenstein 325ci does not have). Also, they used STD correction factor. STD and DIN correction factors are for dyno queens. Lastly, 0-60 in almost 5 seconds and 0-124 in nearly 15 is not going to eat many AMGs on this forum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spJNp...3&feature=plcp
you're measuring that on your stop watch? LOOL!! if you're blind (or deaf), then let me tell you that I was rolling into the throttle and I did not launch on that pull.


Those pulls were also done on 19's and low profile tires which wouldn't allow me to start in 2nd gear without breaking traction.

Like I said, if any of you guys are local just shoot me a PM. not sure why you're butt hurt .
Old 06-07-2012, 03:19 PM
  #62  
MBWorld Fanatic!
iTrader: (1)
 
Cylinder Head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Seattle
Posts: 6,706
Received 541 Likes on 359 Posts
'19 E63S, ‘16 CLS63 RIP, '09 E63 Gone, '06 M5 Gone, '97 Supra TT Gone
Regardless, against anything but a bone stock 55k you'd be walked. Your car is very nice and it looks like you've put some good work into her, but this forum (particularly the 55k and V12TT guys) is full of monsters.
Old 06-07-2012, 03:19 PM
  #63  
Super Member
 
johnnyblaze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Orange County CA
Posts: 752
Received 10 Likes on 8 Posts
CLS63S
Old 06-07-2012, 03:22 PM
  #64  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
MRAMG1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: PA
Posts: 3,341
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
S600, GL450, Audi A5 Cab
Originally Posted by vioilio
This does not look like a real M3. It is more likely "I wanna be M3"
Yeah think, wrong rear valance, wrong exhaust, look deeper and you will see.

I would LOVE to meet him in my lonely S600
Old 06-07-2012, 03:26 PM
  #65  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
MRAMG1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: PA
Posts: 3,341
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
S600, GL450, Audi A5 Cab
Originally Posted by AMG EATR
you're measuring that on your stop watch? LOOL!! if you're blind (or deaf), then let me tell you that I was rolling into the throttle and I did not launch on that pull.

Those pulls were also done on 19's and low profile tires which wouldn't allow me to start in 2nd gear without breaking traction.

Like I said, if any of you guys are local just shoot me a PM. not sure why you're butt hurt .
Oh my 316lb/ft of torque, what would I do, cylinder hold me please as I am soooooooo afraid

Please tell me you are in the tri state area
Old 06-07-2012, 03:32 PM
  #66  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
aghakauve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 1,451
Received 18 Likes on 9 Posts
GLC63s, W222 S63, W223 S580
Originally Posted by moosejaw
I wish we had cool plates like TX
Just seems so much better out there
This is my show plate

Originally Posted by AMG EATR
Thanks .

AMG SLS
C63 AMG
E55 AMG
CLS 63 AMG
SL55 AMG
C32 AMG with upgrades
Nice so which ones were wins and losses? I ran a stage 1.5 and the stage 2. I took them both when I was basically stock. I only had cooling mods and a ECU tune. That alone brings out a lot for these 55k engines. I personally hope you run someone on here with some minor bolt on's or a stock one I'd like to see how it goes..

Originally Posted by bnzuovr
What does your car do in the 1/4 mile?
Wanting to know this as well..
Old 06-07-2012, 03:33 PM
  #67  
MBWorld Fanatic!
iTrader: (1)
 
Cylinder Head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Seattle
Posts: 6,706
Received 541 Likes on 359 Posts
'19 E63S, ‘16 CLS63 RIP, '09 E63 Gone, '06 M5 Gone, '97 Supra TT Gone
Originally Posted by MRAMG1
Oh my 316lb/ft of torque, what would I do, cylinder hold me please as I am soooooooo afraid

Please tell me you are in the tri state area
Doesn't your car make double that torque number? More than double?

As a side note you ever make it to the New Hope area? I just moved from there and miss it.
Old 06-07-2012, 03:36 PM
  #68  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
bnzuovr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Bloomingdale,IL
Posts: 1,378
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
2004 W211 E55K, GL550
OK SO WHATS IT DO IN THE 1/4MILE AGAIN??????
Old 06-07-2012, 03:48 PM
  #69  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
moosejaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,692
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts
none
AMG ETR is in the Metro Toronto Area
Let him and Benz Addict meet up and race
Im curious to see the outcome
Old 06-07-2012, 03:51 PM
  #70  
Senior Member
 
cmusngi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Spring/Houston, TX
Posts: 273
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
CLS 55 AMG, FX45, F-350, Top Secret Widebody Supra (Sold) and other vehicles on another Planet
Originally Posted by aghakauve
Race him.. Here is a vid of me racing a Active M3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R61hLsoiYt8

Go to 3:15, this is a full stage 2 kit with meth and all the other bolt on's. He got the jump and then around 90-100 I pulled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHqGnxKDqn0





LOL! Get 'em Kauve! Was that Ted driving the BMW?



.
Old 06-07-2012, 03:54 PM
  #71  
Newbie
 
AMG EATR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Boosted E46
Originally Posted by MRAMG1
Oh my 316lb/ft of torque, what would I do, cylinder hold me please as I am soooooooo afraid

Please tell me you are in the tri state area
That's to the wheels FYI and I weigh about ~3000 lbs with all the reduction - How about I pay for your gas to come over to this side of the border if you beat me with your S600.

Fair?

Originally Posted by moosejaw
AMG ETR is in the Metro Toronto Area
Let him and Benz Addict meet up and race
Im curious to see the outcome
Still waiting for him to shoot me a PM .

Have not done a 1/4 - as stated before, The E46 rear end is not built for launching.
Old 06-07-2012, 03:59 PM
  #72  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
aghakauve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 1,451
Received 18 Likes on 9 Posts
GLC63s, W222 S63, W223 S580
Originally Posted by cmusngi
LOL! Get 'em Kauve! Was that Ted driving the BMW?
Yea that was Ted driving he uses me as a tester hahaha..
Old 06-07-2012, 04:02 PM
  #73  
Banned
 
zneB-sedecreM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,357
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
MB; 55KCL AMG, SL550 SLS AMG G500 Cabrio 280SL ML350 CLS550 ML500 E55 AMG CL500 S600 SLK32 AMG
Damn, a little 3 Series got everyone wound up on here. BMW guys have big mouths, always have always will. This is nothing new here.
BTW, I think it's stupid to put any other brand name of a car if your car isn't that brand car, MB/AMG included. Because when you happen to lose, what else are you probably talking out of your ***.
Old 06-07-2012, 04:26 PM
  #74  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
cahiil55k's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,044
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
211-55
Originally Posted by AMG EATR
you're measuring that on your stop watch? LOOL!! if you're blind (or deaf), then let me tell you that I was rolling into the throttle and I did not launch on that pull.

Those pulls were also done on 19's and low profile tires which wouldn't allow me to start in 2nd gear without breaking traction.

Like I said, if any of you guys are local just shoot me a PM. not sure why you're butt hurt .
Fine, you rolled into it at the beginning for a second but your 62-124mph still falls short. Nothing I said indicates that my butt is hurt, but you on the other hand are starting to show your true colors. Anyway, if you're happy with your STD-corrected dyno numbers, that's all that matters.
Old 06-07-2012, 04:46 PM
  #75  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
skratch77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,684
Received 368 Likes on 271 Posts
2005 E55
well here is my car with stock boost pulley in 90d weather

I have never lost to a bmer and pulled 10 cars on a maxed out 335 on race gas after I modded my car.



You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 5 votes, 5.00 average.

Quick Reply: --he wishes it is an AMG eater--



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:06 PM.