W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63
View Poll Results: What are the best headers for the W211 E55
MHP
1
3.13%
Kleeman
11
34.38%
Eurocharged
4
12.50%
MBH
16
50.00%
Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll

A question about headers

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Jul 3, 2012 | 02:46 PM
  #1  
nizzle's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 474
Likes: 0
From: Seattle
2014 AMG E63S, 2006 XK8 victory edition convertible, 2006 supercharged trailblazer SS, 2001 E430
A question about headers

I am thinking about purchasing some headers for my 04 E55 AMG. There are a few different brands I'm looking at. MHP, Kleeman, EC, and MBH. I would like to know which one of these brands gives the best performance gains and have the best quality(longevity). I've used the search to look for similar threads but have not found any. Any input/advise will be much appreciated. Thanks

EDIT: Also see - https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...er-issues.html

Last edited by nizzle; Jul 3, 2012 at 03:57 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2012 | 02:55 PM
  #2  
pearlpower's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 2,825
Likes: 17
From: Southern California
E55 w/ goods, Z32 Project underway
You have to understand that the 'best' is dependent to what the person owns. Unless a few here have had all of your choices. You would have better luck with a ,'Have you had problems with your header' like question to weed out the garbage. Most folks enjoy crap because their expectations are set on crap until they find something better. Look at the iPhone 4S for example. LOL..
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2012 | 03:39 PM
  #3  
vioilio's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 504
Likes: 8
From: DE
2003 E55 AMG
Originally Posted by pearlpower
You have to understand that the 'best' is dependent to what the person owns. Unless a few here have had all of your choices. You would have better luck with a ,'Have you had problems with your header' like question to weed out the garbage. Most folks enjoy crap because their expectations are set on crap until they find something better. Look at the iPhone 4S for example. LOL..
.....exactly! Well said!
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2012 | 03:46 PM
  #4  
nizzle's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 474
Likes: 0
From: Seattle
2014 AMG E63S, 2006 XK8 victory edition convertible, 2006 supercharged trailblazer SS, 2001 E430
Originally Posted by pearlpower
You have to understand that the 'best' is dependent to what the person owns. Unless a few here have had all of your choices. You would have better luck with a ,'Have you had problems with your header' like question to weed out the garbage. Most folks enjoy crap because their expectations are set on crap until they find something better. Look at the iPhone 4S for example. LOL..
HA! Good point
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2012 | 03:51 PM
  #5  
Shifter's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,315
Likes: 4
E55, SL63, ML550
Price and your goal is also important, things like weather or not you need cats in place.
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2012 | 03:55 PM
  #6  
nizzle's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 474
Likes: 0
From: Seattle
2014 AMG E63S, 2006 XK8 victory edition convertible, 2006 supercharged trailblazer SS, 2001 E430
I don't know what I want yet. So any advice, input, or opinions are welcome.

Last edited by nizzle; Jul 3, 2012 at 05:04 PM. Reason: spelling error
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2012 | 03:55 PM
  #7  
AMG E Power's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,355
Likes: 6
E55 amg
Originally Posted by pearlpower
You have to understand that the 'best' is dependent to what the person owns. Unless a few here have had all of your choices. You would have better luck with a ,'Have you had problems with your header' like question to weed out the garbage. Most folks enjoy crap because their expectations are set on crap until they find something better. Look at the iPhone 4S for example. LOL..
Not true the iphone 4s is the bench mark for smartphones.
To help answer ur question kleemann are good as far as i know they r mid length and weld in but, they do not have a warranty and some have been know to crack. MBH are a little more pricey but they have a lifetime warranty and are long tube and have a guarantee of 40 wheel hp i believe. the choice is urs lol
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2012 | 04:59 PM
  #8  
CharlyE500's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,411
Likes: 69
From: Socal, Chino
E55 2006 / CLS55 / S450 / Jag XKR2011
Originally Posted by AMG E Power
Not true the iphone 4s is the bench mark for smartphones.
To help answer ur question kleemann are good as far as i know they r mid length and weld in but, they do not have a warranty and some have been know to crack. MBH are a little more pricey but they have a lifetime warranty and are long tube and have a guarantee of 40 wheel hp i believe. the choice is urs lol
Not correct. Kleemann offer 1 year warranty. If any crack happens just weld it, this will make it stronger. Of course, MBH is better quality with life time warranty but 3 times more expensive. If breaks, you still have to remove and ship back to manufacture so the cost will high. If you buy the Kleemann from Kleemann, they offer 1 year warranty and great price in ECU tune.
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

8 Oddball Mercedes Ideas That Actually Made it to Production

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Dubai Tuner Gives the Mercedes G-Class An Entirely New Look

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Six Gift Ideas Your AMG Loving Dad or Grad Will Cherish

 
story-3

7 Craziest Things AMG Gas Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jul 3, 2012 | 05:11 PM
  #9  
whipplem104's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 837
Likes: 25
From: seattle
1990 300ce supercharged and intercooled
I have put in quite a few different brands. I would recommend long tubes with pipes that completely replace your factory cat sections. Kleemann crack and getting them properly installed so that they do not have a kink costs more. It normally takes a couple of mandrel bends and some fab time. And your factory cats get cut off the stock system. If you do not like exhaust leaks then get a welded collector set like MBH or the ARH headers. Any brand with a slip fit collector will have small leaks. Some people care and some do not.
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2012 | 05:14 PM
  #10  
Speedriven1's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,542
Likes: 72
From: Palatine, IL
Speedriven
We have had a great experience with all the headers we purchase from MBH and it is excellent quality compared to the other header products in my opinoin.


Here is a picture of a set of S55 headers we purchased from them,




Thanks
Aleks

Last edited by Speedriven1; Jul 5, 2012 at 02:47 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2012 | 05:40 PM
  #11  
blackbenzz's Avatar
Out Of Control!!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 13,489
Likes: 96
haters crazy
If price isn't an issue mbh. Kleemann is best bang for your buck
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2012 | 05:55 PM
  #12  
2008AMG63's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 152
Likes: 0
From: México City
2008 E63, KTM990, 2012 CLS63, 1972 W108 280SE 4.5
I am also considering LTHs and wonder, why you are not considering SuperSprint's?

From what I have researched they look one of the best.

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-cat-back.html
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2012 | 06:45 PM
  #13  
nizzle's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 474
Likes: 0
From: Seattle
2014 AMG E63S, 2006 XK8 victory edition convertible, 2006 supercharged trailblazer SS, 2001 E430
I haven't heard of any members on here with w211 E55's that have used them. But I guess I can look into those as well.
Reply
Old Jul 4, 2012 | 01:47 AM
  #14  
Hasan Shaikh's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 180
Likes: 0
From: Dubai - UAE
E63s - AMG and M6
Supersprint are the best when it comes to manufacturing headers.

They have a true equal length design. They put a lot of R&D into their products. This is why the cost is so high.
Reply
Old Jul 4, 2012 | 01:57 AM
  #15  
togaclk55's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,456
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA
CLK55
Originally Posted by blackbenzz
If price isn't an issue mbh. Kleemann is best bang for your buck
+1
Reply
Old Jul 5, 2012 | 01:28 PM
  #16  
TonyC's Avatar
Super Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 527
Likes: 9
e63 p30 estate
Originally Posted by 2008AMG63
I am also considering LTHs and wonder, why you are not considering SuperSprint's?

From what I have researched they look one of the best.

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-cat-back.html
it's interesting all the non-US posters mention supersprint (no doubt due to their superior international distributorship), while the US folks all speak of MBH.

if only Supersprint's headers aren't 50% more than the US-made products.
Reply
Old Jul 5, 2012 | 01:38 PM
  #17  
chawkins2001's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,659
Likes: 68
From: Atlanta
2006 E55 AMG
American Racing Headers are not on your list and should be. They are beasts, and are very well known in the American Muscle Car circles, they would be on my car if I did not already have floored fab longtubes.
Reply
Old Jul 5, 2012 | 02:27 PM
  #18  
nizzle's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 474
Likes: 0
From: Seattle
2014 AMG E63S, 2006 XK8 victory edition convertible, 2006 supercharged trailblazer SS, 2001 E430
Originally Posted by chawkins2001
American Racing Headers are not on your list and should be. They are beasts, and are very well known in the American Muscle Car circles, they would be on my car if I did not already have floored fab longtubes.
I don't see any for the 55's on their website . They have some for the 63's tho
Reply
Old Jul 5, 2012 | 02:42 PM
  #19  
kompressede's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,439
Likes: 9
From: NY
Sold - 05' E55
+ 1 on the ARH LT Headers.
Reply
Old Jul 5, 2012 | 02:55 PM
  #20  
chawkins2001's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,659
Likes: 68
From: Atlanta
2006 E55 AMG
Originally Posted by nizzle
I don't see any for the 55's on their website . They have some for the 63's tho
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...neak-peek.html

Reply
Old Jul 6, 2012 | 11:43 AM
  #21  
jmb614's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,239
Likes: 17
From: West
E55 AMG
Originally Posted by AMG E Power
Not true the iphone 4s is the bench mark for smartphones.
LOL

I'll put my Evo 4G against it any day. Faster processor, more RAM, external storage, larger IPS screen with higher resolution, bigger battery, better camera, better OS, the list goes on.

Oh, MBH or TTM FTW.
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2012 | 11:48 AM
  #22  
jmb614's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,239
Likes: 17
From: West
E55 AMG
Originally Posted by CharlyE500
Not correct. Kleemann offer 1 year warranty. If any crack happens just weld it, this will make it stronger. Of course, MBH is better quality with life time warranty but 3 times more expensive. If breaks, you still have to remove and ship back to manufacture so the cost will high. If you buy the Kleemann from Kleemann, they offer 1 year warranty and great price in ECU tune.
Not quite true, I had an issue with my MBH headers contacting the steering linkage on left hand turns. I talked to Mike about it and he went to work. He ended up re-designing the jig for the header after testing out a new set on a E55. Once that was done he sent me a brand new drivers side header for free, he is even paying for the re-installation costs.
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2012 | 12:21 PM
  #23  
CharlyE500's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,411
Likes: 69
From: Socal, Chino
E55 2006 / CLS55 / S450 / Jag XKR2011
Originally Posted by jmb614
Not quite true, I had an issue with my MBH headers contacting the steering linkage on left hand turns. I talked to Mike about it and he went to work. He ended up re-designing the jig for the header after testing out a new set on a E55. Once that was done he sent me a brand new drivers side header for free, he is even paying for the re-installation costs.
No doubt in MBH quality and service but Kleemann header only $1K. Can you find a better deal a mid tube header and proved hp gain for $1k ??? The fastest E55 in board use Kleemann header BTW. About Super Sprint, I remember a vendor tried to sell for $9K few months back.......... they have no idea how much the 55 worth today.

Last edited by CharlyE500; Jul 6, 2012 at 12:25 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2012 | 12:29 PM
  #24  
Shifter's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,315
Likes: 4
E55, SL63, ML550
Originally Posted by jmb614
LOL

I'll put my Evo 4G against it any day. Faster processor, more RAM, external storage, larger IPS screen with higher resolution, bigger battery, better camera, better OS, the list goes on.

Oh, MBH or TTM FTW.
Thats what I thought until i got a 4s. All the other phones freeze/lock up.
Not the iphone, NEVER. It is the smoothest operating system.
Everyone plays catchup with it, remember??

Oh ya on topic, well my kleemann's cracked, so I'll vote MBH
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2012 | 02:20 PM
  #25  
Try Me's Avatar
Member
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 106
Likes: 1
From: Chicago
Mercedes E55 Amg
Originally Posted by Shifter
Thats what I thought until i got a 4s. All the other phones freeze/lock up.
Not the iphone, NEVER. It is the smoothest operating system.
Everyone plays catchup with it, remember??

Oh ya on topic, well my kleemann's cracked, so I'll vote MBH


I'm with you, if it wasn't for apple you would still be using your flip phone, the best ideas are often stolen, look at any pc based phone these days.. On topic if money is no object buy MBH and never look back, do not buy EC headers, fit sucks, they hang way to low, o2 sensor bungs are horribly placed...
Reply


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:51 PM.

story-0
8 Oddball Mercedes Ideas That Actually Made it to Production

Slideshow: Mercedes has never been afraid to experiment, and some of its strangest ideas turned out to be surprisingly successful.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-10 17:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-1
Dubai Tuner Gives the Mercedes G-Class An Entirely New Look

Sideshow: A Middle Eastern tuner has transformed the Mercedes-AMG G 63 into an open-top special, replacing nearly every exterior panel in the process.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-10 15:29:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
Six Gift Ideas Your AMG Loving Dad or Grad Will Cherish

Slideshow: Six gift ideas your AMG loving dad or grad will cherish.

By | 2026-06-03 17:26:18


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Craziest Things AMG Gas Ever Built

Slideshow: Sometimes AMG builds fast sedans. Other times, it builds twin-turbo V12 land missiles and six-wheeled off-road monsters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 17:59:58


VIEW MORE
story-4
New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes-AMG's new electric GT 4-Door Coupe trades combustion for software, synthetic noise, and more than 1,100 horsepower.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 20:08:15


VIEW MORE
story-5
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-8
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE