AMG virginity/ E55 wagon build thread
01-25-2013, 06:01 PM
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I am in love!!! Car looks sick, thanks for the build thread for us to follow.
01-29-2013, 09:01 PM
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No new rims-not worried about them that much. The car is a driver! Things are gonna happen, and I'm just trying to figure out the best way to keep them in shape (be it refinishing, touch-up paint, layer of clearcoat, etc).
Working with Vossen on it, and they will get me right! The wheels are awesome, and the color is growing on me so much that once I get the finish figured out, I'm going to color all the chrome to match the matte graphite of the wheels.
Working with Vossen on it, and they will get me right! The wheels are awesome, and the color is growing on me so much that once I get the finish figured out, I'm going to color all the chrome to match the matte graphite of the wheels.
01-29-2013, 09:20 PM
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No new rims-not worried about them that much. The car is a driver! Things are gonna happen, and I'm just trying to figure out the best way to keep them in shape (be it refinishing, touch-up paint, layer of clearcoat, etc).
Working with Vossen on it, and they will get me right! The wheels are awesome, and the color is growing on me so much that once I get the finish figured out, I'm going to color all the chrome to match the matte graphite of the wheels.
Working with Vossen on it, and they will get me right! The wheels are awesome, and the color is growing on me so much that once I get the finish figured out, I'm going to color all the chrome to match the matte graphite of the wheels.
01-30-2013, 12:50 PM
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I'll ask Jerry and crew for the AFR on the Eurocharged tune (or if they are reading, feel free to post it up!), but it was literally off the charts rich (below 10.5) from ~3500 RPM onwards. To his credit, he didn't feel comfortable making it more aggressive until I had some more cooling mods done. For my original dyno by BenzWorks, I haven't been able to get the AFR unfortunately.
Did the split cooling, and cat-delete with x-pipe, and Eurocharged reflashed me last night. It has a noticeable, significant power increase, hope to re-dyno this week (Thursday or Friday it is supposed to be a little cooler in Orlando). I'd love to hit 550rwhp or 650 rwtq, but that might not be in the cars justttt yet.
Also hope to reroute my split cooling mod tonight so that it directly flows from intercooler into the resv before going through the heat exchanger. Currently there is a T between the {pump out} and the {intercooler in} chain that has a return going to the resv, and a T that has a feed from the resv into the {intercooler out} and {heat exchanger in} chain. Not an ideal setup. While I am down there, I'll be changing out the CM30 with a Bosch 010 pump based off some recommendations that it flows better (and the fact that I got a 010 pump super cheap).
Did the split cooling, and cat-delete with x-pipe, and Eurocharged reflashed me last night. It has a noticeable, significant power increase, hope to re-dyno this week (Thursday or Friday it is supposed to be a little cooler in Orlando). I'd love to hit 550rwhp or 650 rwtq, but that might not be in the cars justttt yet.
Also hope to reroute my split cooling mod tonight so that it directly flows from intercooler into the resv before going through the heat exchanger. Currently there is a T between the {pump out} and the {intercooler in} chain that has a return going to the resv, and a T that has a feed from the resv into the {intercooler out} and {heat exchanger in} chain. Not an ideal setup. While I am down there, I'll be changing out the CM30 with a Bosch 010 pump based off some recommendations that it flows better (and the fact that I got a 010 pump super cheap).
02-09-2013, 12:48 AM
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Your wagon looks great! Das Auto! Damn making me jealous with all those mods! Id like to get my wagon some more goodies now!
I know the feeling i don't get many looks in my wagon but every once and a while some guy will pull up next to me and notice what it is and give the thumbs up.
But overall definitely a great sleeper.
What made you switch over from CTSV? The reason i ask is I have been eyeballing some CTSV 6 speed wagons....and thinking about the switch back to manual transmission!
I know the feeling i don't get many looks in my wagon but every once and a while some guy will pull up next to me and notice what it is and give the thumbs up.
But overall definitely a great sleeper.What made you switch over from CTSV? The reason i ask is I have been eyeballing some CTSV 6 speed wagons....and thinking about the switch back to manual transmission!
02-12-2013, 09:21 PM
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@sonicboost - I decided to switch from the CTS-V for a couple reasons:
-One was because it was small. Nearly impossible to fit anything quasi large in the trunk, tight in the interior, and 4 adults was a tight squeeze. I had the Recaro's, which were great to hard driving, but SUCKED for long cruises/trips.
-Second was that they were depreciating pretty hard
-Third was that I wanted to go all-out on modding a car again, and I thought it was better to start with something with a lower entry cost with built-in rareness and exclusivity (W211 AMG Estates) than something nearly double the cost that there were already tons of.
Things I miss: the magnetic handling and tightness of the suspension,the LSA power delivery, the 6 speed auto was good for what it was, and the infotainment system.
If I had it to do over, I would have enjoyed the CTS-V wagon 6-speed without the Recaro's much more than my CTS-V. More rare, just as fast, handled great still, and the trans was solid. If you get a good deal on one, jump at it.
-One was because it was small. Nearly impossible to fit anything quasi large in the trunk, tight in the interior, and 4 adults was a tight squeeze. I had the Recaro's, which were great to hard driving, but SUCKED for long cruises/trips.
-Second was that they were depreciating pretty hard
-Third was that I wanted to go all-out on modding a car again, and I thought it was better to start with something with a lower entry cost with built-in rareness and exclusivity (W211 AMG Estates) than something nearly double the cost that there were already tons of.
Things I miss: the magnetic handling and tightness of the suspension,the LSA power delivery, the 6 speed auto was good for what it was, and the infotainment system.
If I had it to do over, I would have enjoyed the CTS-V wagon 6-speed without the Recaro's much more than my CTS-V. More rare, just as fast, handled great still, and the trans was solid. If you get a good deal on one, jump at it.
02-17-2013, 09:36 PM
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I hear what you are saying about the CTSV. I have been toying with the idea lately and reading up. I'm sure i can find a buyer pretty quick for my car but will need to wait until the prices come down a bit on those 6sp wagons, before i can make any moves. They're still around low 50s for a nice one. In the sedans I see what you mean that they are depreciating hard and that is why I started getting interested. I did hear the recaros gave some people issues with comfort and noise. Thanks for the info!
Well you have yourself a sweet powerhouse ride now so I'm sure you will enjoy. Looks like Vossen really got the fitment right on your wagon. Looks dope. Hope you get everything sorted out and keep us posted with any updates! Schmoke tire!
Well you have yourself a sweet powerhouse ride now so I'm sure you will enjoy. Looks like Vossen really got the fitment right on your wagon. Looks dope. Hope you get everything sorted out and keep us posted with any updates!
Schmoke tire!
02-17-2013, 10:51 PM
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AAAARrrrgh color me jealous would have jumped at ittto back when I was shopping.(if they had had one near me,cali is bit far for me).Wife would have also been much quicker to agree,"honey its a WAGON for the family just look at all that hpower... Um room for stuff" .you are a lucky lucky man w great taste!
08-30-2013, 06:01 PM
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Guess I better post an update here! It has been a while, and I've run through tires quickly (I've had to replace them all..in less than 7k miles haha). Caught some nail/junk in one of the rears, and decided to replace both with a different brand that they had in stock since I really needed the car. Then, on of the fronts was wearing really really badly on the inside due to a bad alignment. It worked out fine-at least now they are all fresh and all the same brand haha!
Bad front alignment was something I have really really struggled with. The culprit? Uneven ride height. At some point between when BenzWorks finished the car and now, I had someone play with the adjustment brackets because we thought it was too low and rubbing on turns. Turns out that was the headers, not the fender wall...but in all the toying with it, the passenger front was set lower than the driver's front, and kept having a bad vibration at speed. Had maybe 5 alignments done and redone, and at least 5 sessions of wheel balancing, along with replacing bearings, hubs, etc etc...nada. Finally took it to Merc dealer that offered me a deal on oil change, and I had them align it while it was there. They figured it out, balanced the ride height in STAR, re-aligned it again, and poof! All better! Crazy how things turn out.
Might be sending it back to Eurocharged here soon for a trunk tank, exhaust stuff, and a new tune (I am still running way rich at idle since I've de-catted). In the meantime, here are a few new pictures:
Bad front alignment was something I have really really struggled with. The culprit? Uneven ride height. At some point between when BenzWorks finished the car and now, I had someone play with the adjustment brackets because we thought it was too low and rubbing on turns. Turns out that was the headers, not the fender wall...but in all the toying with it, the passenger front was set lower than the driver's front, and kept having a bad vibration at speed. Had maybe 5 alignments done and redone, and at least 5 sessions of wheel balancing, along with replacing bearings, hubs, etc etc...nada. Finally took it to Merc dealer that offered me a deal on oil change, and I had them align it while it was there. They figured it out, balanced the ride height in STAR, re-aligned it again, and poof! All better! Crazy how things turn out.
Might be sending it back to Eurocharged here soon for a trunk tank, exhaust stuff, and a new tune (I am still running way rich at idle since I've de-catted). In the meantime, here are a few new pictures:
08-30-2013, 06:05 PM
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Oh yea, I forgot: I also bought those "Spyder" headlight replacements. Good deal, no fogging/haze, whatever...I figured "why not?"
It has been about 6 months, no problems. The look in person is pretty good, and the LED's are understated (which is what I was hoping for). I was worried that it was going to be too ricer and I was going to have to send them back, but they turned out really well for what I was willing to deal with.
It has been about 6 months, no problems. The look in person is pretty good, and the LED's are understated (which is what I was hoping for). I was worried that it was going to be too ricer and I was going to have to send them back, but they turned out really well for what I was willing to deal with.
10-24-2013, 02:56 PM
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Update to my build:
For whatever reason, I kept having issues with the long-tube headers I had from BenzWorks. They worked with me a lot, and shipped me a brand new set...which I installed and still had some clearance issues (in the meantime, they reinstalled the headers I sent back on another E55 without the same rubbing). Who knows why it was happening, but I got sick of the vibration on heavy load and downgraded to a set of Kleeman headers that Eurocharged put in for me.
While there, I had them install a trunk tank to help with cooling, and a beltwrap kit. They were retuning it and I was just making too much boost with my 180mm crank and 84mm supercharger pulley..and even more so with a slightly more restrictive set of headers and a beltwrap kit catch some more boost. John and Jerry went through a TON of pulley combinations to find the right match, and we ended up with my 180mm and a stock supercharger pulley.
In summary, went from long-tubes to Kleeman mid-length headers, dropped back to the stock supercharger pulley, then added a trunk tank and a beltwrap kit. End result? More power, somehow! 569rwhp and ~630rwtq, A/F around 11.5 - 12.0 (and starting IATs around 60f). Those Eurocharged guys, given some time and flexibility, can work absolute magic on these cars.
For whatever reason, I kept having issues with the long-tube headers I had from BenzWorks. They worked with me a lot, and shipped me a brand new set...which I installed and still had some clearance issues (in the meantime, they reinstalled the headers I sent back on another E55 without the same rubbing). Who knows why it was happening, but I got sick of the vibration on heavy load and downgraded to a set of Kleeman headers that Eurocharged put in for me.
While there, I had them install a trunk tank to help with cooling, and a beltwrap kit. They were retuning it and I was just making too much boost with my 180mm crank and 84mm supercharger pulley..and even more so with a slightly more restrictive set of headers and a beltwrap kit catch some more boost. John and Jerry went through a TON of pulley combinations to find the right match, and we ended up with my 180mm and a stock supercharger pulley.
In summary, went from long-tubes to Kleeman mid-length headers, dropped back to the stock supercharger pulley, then added a trunk tank and a beltwrap kit. End result? More power, somehow! 569rwhp and ~630rwtq, A/F around 11.5 - 12.0 (and starting IATs around 60f). Those Eurocharged guys, given some time and flexibility, can work absolute magic on these cars.
10-24-2013, 03:25 PM
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Update to my build:
For whatever reason, I kept having issues with the long-tube headers I had from BenzWorks. They worked with me a lot, and shipped me a brand new set...which I installed and still had some clearance issues (in the meantime, they reinstalled the headers I sent back on another E55 without the same rubbing). Who knows why it was happening, but I got sick of the vibration on heavy load and downgraded to a set of Kleeman headers that Eurocharged put in for me.
While there, I had them install a trunk tank to help with cooling, and a beltwrap kit. They were retuning it and I was just making too much boost with my 180mm crank and 84mm supercharger pulley..and even more so with a slightly more restrictive set of headers and a beltwrap kit catch some more boost. John and Jerry went through a TON of pulley combinations to find the right match, and we ended up with my 180mm and a stock supercharger pulley.
In summary, went from long-tubes to Kleeman mid-length headers, dropped back to the stock supercharger pulley, then added a trunk tank and a beltwrap kit. End result? More power, somehow! 569rwhp and ~630rwtq, A/F around 11.5 - 12.0 (and starting IATs around 60f). Those Eurocharged guys, given some time and flexibility, can work absolute magic on these cars.
For whatever reason, I kept having issues with the long-tube headers I had from BenzWorks. They worked with me a lot, and shipped me a brand new set...which I installed and still had some clearance issues (in the meantime, they reinstalled the headers I sent back on another E55 without the same rubbing). Who knows why it was happening, but I got sick of the vibration on heavy load and downgraded to a set of Kleeman headers that Eurocharged put in for me.
While there, I had them install a trunk tank to help with cooling, and a beltwrap kit. They were retuning it and I was just making too much boost with my 180mm crank and 84mm supercharger pulley..and even more so with a slightly more restrictive set of headers and a beltwrap kit catch some more boost. John and Jerry went through a TON of pulley combinations to find the right match, and we ended up with my 180mm and a stock supercharger pulley.
In summary, went from long-tubes to Kleeman mid-length headers, dropped back to the stock supercharger pulley, then added a trunk tank and a beltwrap kit. End result? More power, somehow! 569rwhp and ~630rwtq, A/F around 11.5 - 12.0 (and starting IATs around 60f). Those Eurocharged guys, given some time and flexibility, can work absolute magic on these cars.
Thanks for the review/update !
-Phil
10-24-2013, 03:27 PM
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10-24-2013, 03:55 PM
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Dyno Graphs
First is normal HP/TQ
Second has A/F overlaid with the HP graph
Lower IAT's help a lot, so this is going to be a lot more robust than a regular ol' Florida run off the street, with IAT around 90. But damn, that is solid power.
Second has A/F overlaid with the HP graph
Lower IAT's help a lot, so this is going to be a lot more robust than a regular ol' Florida run off the street, with IAT around 90. But damn, that is solid power.
11-11-2013, 03:28 AM
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nice car. my cv3s chipped bad like yours . so I powder coated em ..... and it chiped again ... and fast ...
I don't under stand ... I don't drive anywhere dirty and I don't beat on my car often.
I don't under stand ... I don't drive anywhere dirty and I don't beat on my car often.
