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E55 AMG on Ethanol-Meth; 600rwhp BMW M5
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Let me explain the two versions for the Mercedes:
The first gauge communicates with the ECM (Engine control module), using the ISO protocol used by Mercedes. The second communicates with the TCM (transmission control module) and uses the CAN protocol. This is the first application that we've seen that has two protocols on the same car, thus the need for two gauges unless you don't care to monitor the trans parameters.
There is no wideband specific gauge. Both the ECM and TCM gauges have 2 analog inputs which can be used to connect to our or any other wideband kit. A conversion is entered into the gauge to convert the voltage to A/F ratio. These inputs can be used with temp sensors, pressure sensors, EGT etc. Aeroforce sell wideband kits if you dont already have one.
We have a third gauge called the Analogic, this one does not connect to the OBD2 port. It has four 0-5v inputs and 2 EGT inputs. This is a good choice if you are adding a lot of additional sensors or have a pre-OBD2 car.
Listed Below are some of the PID's available for each gauge:
ECM Gauge Using the ISO protocol
1.Intake Air Temp
2. Coolant Temperature
3. RPM
4. Boost – inHg/PSI. Derived from MAP sensor subtracting barometer.
5. MAP kPa – Manifold Absolute Pressure displayed in kPa
6. MAF lb/min – Mass Air Flow Sensor
7. Throttle Angle
8. Ignition Advance
9. Engine Load
10. MPG – Calculated miles per gallon
11. HP – Calculated HP at crank
12. Battery – battery voltage
13. Inj. PW 1 –Injector Pulse Width for injector #1
14. Inj. PW 2 –Injector Pulse Width for injector #2
15. Oil Temp
16. Oil Level mm
17-24. Knock C1-C8 –knock retard cylinder 1-8
25. O2 B1 mv – O2 sensor output for exhaust bank 1
26. O2 B2 mv – O2 sensor output for exhaust bank 2
27. Analog 1 – analog input 1
28. Analog 2 – analog input 2
1.Intake Air Temp
2. Coolant Temperature
3. RPM
4. Boost – inHg/PSI. Derived from MAP sensor subtracting barometer.
5. MAP kPa – Manifold Absolute Pressure displayed in kPa
6. MAF lb/min – Mass Air Flow Sensor
7. Throttle Angle
8. Ignition Advance
9. Engine Load
10. MPG – Calculated miles per gallon
11. HP – Calculated HP at crank
12. Battery – battery voltage
13. Inj. PW 1 –Injector Pulse Width for injector #1
14. Inj. PW 2 –Injector Pulse Width for injector #2
15. Oil Temp
16. Oil Level mm
17-24. Knock C1-C8 –knock retard cylinder 1-8
25. O2 B1 mv – O2 sensor output for exhaust bank 1
26. O2 B2 mv – O2 sensor output for exhaust bank 2
27. Analog 1 – analog input 1
28. Analog 2 – analog input 2
TCM and uses the CAN protocol
1. TCC Slip – Torque Converter Slip
2. TCC Slip DSRD –Torque Converter Desired Slip
3. TCC State – Torque Converter status:1=unlocked, 2=partial lock, 3 = lock
4. Gear Actual –Current transmission gear
5. Torque – torque delivered to transmission
6. Output shaft –transmissoin output shaft speed
7. Gear Target –Transmission target gear, will updated just before shift occurs.
8. RPM
9. Turbine in SPD –engine output shaft speed
10. TCC DC- Torque converter clutch duty cycle
11. Analog 1 – analog input #1
12. Analog 2 – analog input #2
1. TCC Slip – Torque Converter Slip
2. TCC Slip DSRD –Torque Converter Desired Slip
3. TCC State – Torque Converter status:1=unlocked, 2=partial lock, 3 = lock
4. Gear Actual –Current transmission gear
5. Torque – torque delivered to transmission
6. Output shaft –transmissoin output shaft speed
7. Gear Target –Transmission target gear, will updated just before shift occurs.
8. RPM
9. Turbine in SPD –engine output shaft speed
10. TCC DC- Torque converter clutch duty cycle
11. Analog 1 – analog input #1
12. Analog 2 – analog input #2
We will run a group pricing only for 3 weeks, and is as follows:
Single Gauge-$219.00
Dual Gauge-$379.00
Wideband-$179.00
Single Gauge-$219.00
Dual Gauge-$379.00
Wideband-$179.00
Partys that want to go ahead and pay, the details are:
Available Universal Gauge Pods:
Detailed Video on the Gauges:
Last edited by BI-Performance; 02-07-2013 at 11:20 AM.
02-06-2013, 03:14 PM
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Are there different options for colors? And they come with the Amg logo? That's pretty cool. I will definitely be ordering one or two.
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E55 AMG on Ethanol-Meth; 600rwhp BMW M5
Currently there is no mount setup provided by aeroforce.
Andrew, there are four display colors:
White
Red
Green
Blue
Andrew, there are four display colors:
White
Red
Green
Blue
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02-07-2013, 09:34 AM
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How do you link to the ECU and TCU? Do you plug into the OBDII port, or splice wires?
Interested in purchasing, but I'm curious to learn more on how to install them?
Interested in purchasing, but I'm curious to learn more on how to install them?
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E55 AMG on Ethanol-Meth; 600rwhp BMW M5
Also, the standard face gauge has the Aeroforce plate, if you want the AMG lettering on the plate, that will be $10 extra.
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prob not going to do wide band i do have one in the car for my zeitronix i have a single gauge pod with shardul being put together. was going to do a ac vent but i think the pillar will be nice.
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SL600
New Aeroforce ISO gauge 600SL 230 car
I have been running a pair (Tranny & Engine) of prototype gauges on a 2005 Merk 600 SL for a number of months. The Transmission gauge has beem working without a hitch and was ready to go on the 600 as I received it originally. I spend most of the time watching Temperature and Converter Slip and ocasionally Gear position and Torque. On a long Highway Trip you can compare Torque to Speed and adjust your cruise control for maximum MPG. The Iso gauge worked for the most part but was a pain to set up in Cyclic mode. A couple of phone calls and a shipment back to AF for a Reprogram/Reflash and it was returned. Found it to be much more friendly when storing Cyclic Scan parameters. The second thing that I found was that it didn't want to display Intake Boost/Vacuum(MAP) on the 600. Another phone call or 2 and back the gauge went for further reprogram and flash. Back it came in a several days and now it had a very cool Boost Air Pressure parameter on it's menu. When you bring it up you have both a digital numeric output and a Bar Graph at the bottom of the display. When you uncork the throttle on a 600 things can get a little exciting from the drivers position
so the bargraph is what I keep an eye on. This feature is really a great addition and makes the 2 gauges a dynamite addition to the Twin Turbo cars. For the most part I watch Oil and Coolant temperature along with Inlet and Manifold air temp. I have the Red Alarms set at 210 Degree Coolant and 220 degree Oil. I found it best to feed both gauges with switched 12v rather than try to pull it from the OBD2 with the gauge jumper in place. On both occasions when I sent the gauges back for reflash I was really uncomfortable driving the car. I like to know what's going on under the hood!
A final point is that in my experiance with aftermarket accessory vendors I have never worked with any that came close to the team at AeroForce. They are very very smart and take perfect care of their customers. A real find in this day and age
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Herb Belin
so the bargraph is what I keep an eye on. This feature is really a great addition and makes the 2 gauges a dynamite addition to the Twin Turbo cars. For the most part I watch Oil and Coolant temperature along with Inlet and Manifold air temp. I have the Red Alarms set at 210 Degree Coolant and 220 degree Oil. I found it best to feed both gauges with switched 12v rather than try to pull it from the OBD2 with the gauge jumper in place. On both occasions when I sent the gauges back for reflash I was really uncomfortable driving the car. I like to know what's going on under the hood! A final point is that in my experiance with aftermarket accessory vendors I have never worked with any that came close to the team at AeroForce. They are very very smart and take perfect care of their customers. A real find in this day and age
......Herb Belin
