FromM3toAMG

Anyone here using the KWv2's? if so how was the install? straight forward like any other car or is a PINTA? i had them on my M3.. loved them.. seems like a much better idea then buying the ELM.. not to mention same price.

Peter_02AMG

Straight forward if you don't have airmatics. You have remove your airmatic system and install the coilovers with non airmatic components from E350.

pnoyworx

Yes I want to do this soon.

FromM3toAMG

ok well i have a E63, so how hard is it to remove all of that? I guess what im trying to accomplish here is to figure out the overall cost of installing coilovers on a 07 E63 with airmatics. From what i have read.. the stock suspention really doesnt perform well when lowered... looks decent.. but the performance aspect just isnt there.. by that i mean cornering.. doing anything besides going in a straight line. the performance needs to match the look imho

FromM3toAMG

im gonna be at Cantrell motorsports in Kirkland on Wednesday, they will be able to answer my questions. im just curious what guys here have to say.

Peter_02AMG

Removing the airmatic components was not that difficult according to my installer. If you do a search you will find the parts list to do the conversation. If i remember correctly labor with coding is $800. You can buy the V2 on line for about $1800 and buy the rest of the E350 components on line yourself for less than $700 depend on where you shop.

You should take a ride in my car before you do the conversion , youre not to far from me. I wish I never did the conversion.

Peter_02AMG

I will be at Mercedes centrum this Friday morning to get the rear coilover adjusted. You can check out my v2 and take a ride before you deceided to do the conversion. Like I said, I wish I never did the coilover conversion.

Alexbenz

Benzworks did it on several e55's.

Hasan Shaikh

Why are you not happy with the conversion?

forcefed4door

my guess is when you put those coilovers on such a heavy car like this one with lowering a good amount, they Prolly make for a harsh ride over rough roads. not something ide want in a car like this... I've gone through many sets of coilovers on a variety of cars, as far as smoothness and ride quality I think the airmatic kicks *** even when lowered.

Hasan Shaikh

I would think the same.

However, I am sure you can set-up the coilovers for a sporty and comfortable ride.

mertd93

You should have done the E63 P30 suspension instead

Hasan Shaikh

What is different in the P30?

mertd93

For the Performance Package E 63 AMG (P30)

The front axle 35% stiffer in rebound and 35% - 45% stiffer in compression.

The rear axle, the suspension is 45% - 60% stiffer in the rebound and compression.

Warmest regards,

AMG Private Lounge Team

Hasan Shaikh

Thanks

That does sound perfect.

Best Regards
Hasan

mertd93

It's more than perfect, trust me. Best mod for the 211 chassis, your E63 or E55 in my case won't feel like an E320 anymore suspension wise.

efiftyfizzle

Installing the same coilovers that your M3 had doesn't mean your E63 will handle like it... The M3 is a smaller chassis with 50/50 weight distribution. Yes, the coilovers will help, but if you're trying to get close to what the M3 does, forget about it.

Peter_02AMG

Exactly! I miss the airmatic and the ability to raise the car with full load.

timeToy

I have made the coilover conversion (I have a wagon, the rear shocks are different, it was a PITA), but I found the car to be much more comfortable and compliant. I though that the stock (NON-P030 airmatic) suspension is not very compliant and too firm, it feel very busy and jerky on non smooth back roads. I cannot imagine how it is going to feel with the even stiffer P030 suspension... Unless you want to drive it on the Nurburgring...

I have my KWv2 setup to be few clicks away from the smoothest damping, the car is lowered (1 finger gap), the car is corner balanced and some weight have been removed (wheels, brakes...). Total weight 4543 lbs (including a 200 lbs sand bag for driver weight), Front 48.9%, Back 51.1%. I guess the wagon has a little more weight on the back for better handling :-)

GunMoto

That's a huge difference...do we only need to replace the front struts and rear shocks with P30 to complete the retrofit?

Thanks,
-GunMoto

FromM3toAMG

wasnt at all comparing the two cars, i was just stating that i liked Kw's. If i wanted a car that handled like a M3 i would have bought a M3.

mertd93

Correct.

BenzoBoi

Do it. Anyone with prior experience with AMGs shouldn't have a problem with the install. I did the conversion on my 55 and I don't know why I didn't do it sooner! The car drives completely different (in a good way) and it's a lot more fun at the track too.

CharlyE500

But at least will handle like M5 right ? I am thinking doing it before my airmatic fail.

efiftyfizzle

Eh, maybe... it's hard to actually tell. All I know is the CLS55 put down great numbers during Top Gear's track testing and the 05-06 E55 has the same suspension / chassis and it's a lighter car. The E55s that were tested were the earlier years and everyone dogged it for it's handling, but I wish they had retested the 05-06 models to see how they compare.