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Old May 27, 2013 | 11:02 AM
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Guys running Q16

Are you guys that run the Q16 leaded race fuel replacing O2 sensors all the time? Thinking about a tune for this but don't really want to be replacing 4 O2 sensors after every trip to the track, plus a 5th for my wideband. Looking at MS109 unleaded as an alternative. Can anybody chime in on the Q16 and how quickly it wrecks the 02's, I don't have cat's so that is not a problem. Also if anybody has run both fuels and can give a performance comparison between the two.
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Old May 27, 2013 | 11:42 AM
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Stick with the 109. Q16 is hard on the sensors and doesn't like high IAT's at all.
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Old May 27, 2013 | 11:51 AM
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Go with a meth kit. Lower IATs, more power, and cheaper per gallon.
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Old May 27, 2013 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by e55amgrocket
Stick with the 109. Q16 is hard on the sensors and doesn't like high IAT's at all.
This^^^^

I have a 93oct tune and a Q16 tune.
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Old May 27, 2013 | 12:55 PM
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VP Import is the best way to go for max power but its $$$$$$$
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Old May 27, 2013 | 01:03 PM
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Try the shell urt advanced. It's unleaded and 110 octane and almost the same price as ms109. Best part it runs 14.7 stoich.
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What is altered in the tune when they tune for Q16? I assume leaning out AFR's a bit at WOT and advancing time due to the higher octane and less chance of detonation/preignition? The same could be done with the MS109 correct? I ran the vp101 last time at the track and didn't notice any difference but tune was still the same. I Did have a gallon or two of 93 in the tank at the time and put a gallon of the VP101 in. Are you guys running the car completely empty of 93oct before putting the Q16 in and changing tunes?
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