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Old 07-02-2013, 02:03 PM
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I like the Weistec E63 video that came out recently a little better. Its a little more in depth.
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You know I was really impressed with the whole video but then I realized the 1/4 mile time was 10.7 at 135mph... didn't Gadget get similar results if not the same from his Weistec powered E55?... with less horsepower and torque.
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You know I was really impressed with the whole video but then I realized the 1/4 mile time was 10.7 at 135mph... didn't Gadget get similar results if not the same from his Weistec powered E55?... with less horsepower and torque.
That is exactly the thing I've yet to understand. 850HP with that transmission and it's only trapping 135. Not impressive.
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Remember those numbers in that video are engine HP not Wheel HP. We left a great deal on the table for that 1/4 mile run. Once we outfit it with a full exhaust and some cooling mods we expect that time to drop dramatically. In fact just the other day with some more work on the car we broke 820whp on the dyno. When the ALPHA 9 package is complete you can expect some much better track results and Vbox times.

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@ 0:58 in the vid, it visually shifts to 3rd, but you don't hear a shift from the exhaust note....

Get your video editing right, people!
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Remember those numbers in that video are engine HP not Wheel HP. We left a great deal on the table for that 1/4 mile run. Once we outfit it with a full exhaust and some cooling mods we expect that time to drop dramatically. In fact just the other day with some more work on the car we broke 820whp on the dyno. When the ALPHA 9 package is complete you can expect some much better track results and Vbox times.

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Eric, let's see some 140 trap speeds!!! When are you guys going back to the track and when do you plan on releasing the full kit?
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Originally Posted by AMS_Performance
Remember those numbers in that video are engine HP not Wheel HP. We left a great deal on the table for that 1/4 mile run. Once we outfit it with a full exhaust and some cooling mods we expect that time to drop dramatically. In fact just the other day with some more work on the car we broke 820whp on the dyno. When the ALPHA 9 package is complete you can expect some much better track results and Vbox times.

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Glad to see that you have full use of your paddle shifters and ac.
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Eric, let's see some 140 trap speeds!!! When are you guys going back to the track and when do you plan on releasing the full kit?
We are working on more ancillary parts right now so hopefully very soon!

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Glad to see that you have full use of your paddle shifters and ac.
LOL I see what you did there

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Glad to see that you have full use of your paddle shifters and ac.
Haha... Eye Sea what you did there.
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We are working on more ancillary parts right now so hopefully very soon!



LOL I see what you did there

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Will you have a finance option for the whole car?!? Haha I hope these depreciate sooner rather than later.
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dman that thing moves!! Great job AMS
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If you can put down 800++ WHP on a mustang or dyno dynamics I will be Very impressed.. Good job...
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Originally Posted by AMS_Performance
We are working on more ancillary parts right now so hopefully very soon!



LOL I see what you did there

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Originally Posted by SterlingE55
Haha... Eye Sea what you did there.
Couldn't help myself.

Great job btw! Can't wait to see the full package results.
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@ 0:58 in the vid, it visually shifts to 3rd, but you don't hear a shift from the exhaust note....

Get your video editing right, people!
LOL wow good catch.... they must have made the transmission shifts perfectly stealth. No more 2-3 granny shift like the E55
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Can't wait to see the 2014 AWD E63 with similar upgrades
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Originally Posted by AMS_Performance
Remember those numbers in that video are engine HP not Wheel HP. We left a great deal on the table for that 1/4 mile run. Once we outfit it with a full exhaust and some cooling mods we expect that time to drop dramatically. In fact just the other day with some more work on the car we broke 820whp on the dyno. When the ALPHA 9 package is complete you can expect some much better track results and Vbox times.

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I'm glad to see you all here and actually providing info and taking questions. Here's a few for you:

-How is the transmission holding up at these power levels?
-Have you had to modify the transmission at all?
-Will your completed project and kit include transmission work?
-If not in the transmission, where is the "weak link" in the drivetrain?
-Will the AWD 2014 model be able to cope? (oh dear lord I hope so).

Thanks!
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If you can put down 800++ WHP on a mustang or dyno dynamics I will be Very impressed.. Good job...
Funny you should say that.

We actually did a test on our Mustang dyno..we have both a mustang and a dynojet. People always assume we use the dynojet because it reads higher and that simply isnt true. We actually use it because the Dynojet is more consistent.

Here's a funny but honest video of what to look out for when using dynos like the mustang and dyno dynamics where calibrations can make HUGE differences in how must power it records on the dyno.

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I'm glad to see you all here and actually providing info and taking questions. Here's a few for you:

-How is the transmission holding up at these power levels?
-Have you had to modify the transmission at all?
-Will your completed project and kit include transmission work?
-If not in the transmission, where is the "weak link" in the drivetrain?
-Will the AWD 2014 model be able to cope? (oh dear lord I hope so).

Thanks!
Sure!

The transmission is holding up fine but we do see a need in the future for improvements and we are already hard at work on some really nice upgrades.

I don't believe our completed kit will include any transmission work but possibly further packages beyond that will. We do think that a built motor will also be needed if the envelope is continued to be pushed but we are already almost done with that program as well

The 2014 4matic should not be a problem. We have done some research and I think the system will be fine but time will tell. We do have a 2014 4Matic E63 and a CLA45 on order from our dealer and hopefully both will be here more sooner than later.

Eric
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The 2014 4matic should not be a problem. We have done some research and I think the system will be fine but time will tell. We do have a 2014 4Matic E63 and a CLA45 on order from our dealer and hopefully both will be here more sooner than later.

Eric

You are planting seeds and you might get a nice harvest down the road. I'm interested in both of these cars!
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Originally Posted by AMS_Performance
Funny you should say that.

We actually did a test on our Mustang dyno..we have both a mustang and a dynojet. People always assume we use the dynojet because it reads higher and that simply isnt true. We actually use it because the Dynojet is more consistent.

Here's a funny but honest video of what to look out for when using dynos like the mustang and dyno dynamics where calibrations can make HUGE differences in how must power it records on the dyno.

AMS Performance Dyno Parameter Manipulation Overview - YouTube
Very, Very interesting about that dyno.. Did not know this.. Thanks for the info.. Great work..
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Very, Very interesting about that dyno.. Did not know this.. Thanks for the info.. Great work..
Sadly most people don't and some people use that to their advantage.

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This kit is sick, I forsee the vast majority of E55 owners to find themselves in a W212 biturbo soon, once they start depreciating of course lol. I cant wait to see the #s the 2014 4matic puts down after kits r made for them. They may even be able to comete w/ your world Quickest R35. I know thats a along shot.
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