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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 10:44 PM
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I just got this wheels for $275... Is this a good deal? Will it look good on 2008 E63 AMG? Size is 20x8.5 front and 20x10 rear. What would be good tires set up? 255/30 front 285/30 rear?

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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 11:02 PM
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nice buy, what are the specs? ET? That we determine what size you can go with. Usually, 255/30 Fronts, or if you want 245/35F, 295/25 or 285/30 rears.
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 11:27 PM
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That's the problem the guy I bought it don't know the specs and he can't find his receipt when he bought it from fletcher jones Mercedes in SoCal. All he said was amg wheels cost him $800/wheel or something ... The only reason he sell cheap is because need a bit refinish on both rear wheels but front are perfect. Thinking of powder coat them gun metal
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 11:40 PM
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$275 and what kind of gun? lol That's a hell of a deal for some great looking wheels!
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 12:15 AM
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$275 and what kind of gun? lol That's a hell of a deal for some great looking wheels!
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 12:17 AM
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nice buy, what are the specs? ET? That we determine what size you can go with. Usually, 255/30 Fronts, or if you want 245/35F, 295/25 or 285/30 rears.
Ok so I searched it online and according to website is 32mm offset front and 38mm offset rear. This will fit just fine right on my car? I haven't test fit yet on the car

Or is it 35mm all around hmmm why so many different specs for same wheel ...

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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 12:17 AM
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Yeah as long as they aren't bent up and will balance that's a steal. Hope they will fit.
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 12:23 AM
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If those are the ET's, you should be fine with 255/30 up front, unless you want just a little more meat you can go with 245/35. Rears you can go 285 or 295/25, again if you want more meat, go 285/30. Choose a tire style with rounded shoulders, this will give you better clearance on the rear without having to roll your fenders. With my setup 295/25 at et42 20x10.5, my clearance is very minimal. If you're not lowered you could be safe on the rears with any tire brand. The front is very safe with those et's and could even run spacers to bring it out just a little more.
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 01:22 AM
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If those are the ET's, you should be fine with 255/30 up front, unless you want just a little more meat you can go with 245/35. Rears you can go 285 or 295/25, again if you want more meat, go 285/30. Choose a tire style with rounded shoulders, this will give you better clearance on the rear without having to roll your fenders. With my setup 295/25 at et42 20x10.5, my clearance is very minimal. If you're not lowered you could be safe on the rears with any tire brand. The front is very safe with those et's and could even run spacers to bring it out just a little more.
Thank you! I will do 285/30 on rear. I'm gonna make sure it doesn't too much off from tires size calculator from oem to new set up
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Ok. Sounds good. You will need to run 35 up front. Hope all goes well.
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if they don't work let me know I will buy them off you.
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if they don't work let me know I will buy them off you.
Lol will see
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 02:07 PM
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I used to run those same wheels and the 32/35mm offsets worked just fine. Now, my rears were 9.5" compared to your 10", but there was more than enough room back there.

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Thank you! I will do 285/30 on rear. I'm gonna make sure it doesn't too much off from tires size calculator from oem to new set up
I don't know what pnoyworx is smoking, but 245/35 in the front and 285/30 in the rear is way off. That's 1.1" taller in the front and 1.4" taller in the rear, both way off from the factory sizing. That rear size would put your speedometer off by almost 6%! If you want to run 20s, then the "correct" size would be 245/30 & 285/25.

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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 03:00 PM
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Well he wanted to run 30 tires in his comment. Just going off what stated. Also its 4% % 5.6. Im sure he will figure it out. Many have run these sizes. Some prefer thicker sidewalls on 20s for protection. If we're talking about %. 245/30 and 275/25 is closest..at the sacrifice of some sidewall protection.

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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 03:54 PM
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He didn't say he wanted to go with the 285/30 until you suggested he run it for more meat. His first post was questioning if 255/30 & 285/30 was the right size. Just trying get him the right information.

I've never understood people who run larger tires on 20" wheels. If you want a larger sidewall, go with 19s. If you want to run 20s, then do it with the right size tire. If you run a larger tire on a 20" wheel, you will look like you raised the car and it will make you car slower because you're having to turn a larger circumference tire.

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Also its 4% % 5.6.
Seeing as how the speedometer isn't dependent on the front tires, it would be 5.6%, which is almost 6, just like I said.
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by HeissRod
I used to run those same wheels and the 32/35mm offsets worked just fine. Now, my rears were 9.5" compared to your 10", but there was more than enough room back there.



I don't know what pnoyworx is smoking, but 245/35 in the front and 285/30 in the rear is way off. That's 1.1" taller in the front and 1.4" taller in the rear, both way off from the factory sizing. That rear size would put your speedometer off by almost 6%! If you want to run 20s, then the "correct" size would be 245/30 & 285/25.
Your front specs



The rear is fine



Or the front could be




I think that should be the right set up unless if I'm wrong?

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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 05:06 PM
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Well if you want to be the only one right so be it. Lol. I do not need to argue with you. Your info will work and it is not wrong, my info works just as it has for me and many other members. Your opinion about thicker sidewall and running 19s instead.. is just your opinion in your preference and not subject to everyones taste or purpose for why they run sizes that don't fit your opinion.
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Originally Posted by STR3ZZ
Your front specs

...

Or the front could be

...

I think that should be the right set up unless if I'm wrong?
Why do you think the 255/30 would be the right setup? The overall diameter and circumference of the 255/30 is farther from stock specs than the 245/30.

A second downfall to the 255/30 & 285/25 combo is tire availability. Between Tirerack and Discount Tire online, you only have 2 options for matching front and rear tires. If you go with the 245/30 & 285/25, then you have 4 options to choose from.

Regardless, the math doesn't lie. 245/30 & 285/25 is the correct +2 sizing for the W211 E55/E63.
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 06:52 PM
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Why do you think the 255/30 would be the right setup? The overall diameter and circumference of the 255/30 is farther from stock specs than the 245/30.

A second downfall to the 255/30 & 285/25 combo is tire availability. Between Tirerack and Discount Tire online, you only have 2 options for matching front and rear tires. If you go with the 245/30 & 285/25, then you have 4 options to choose from.

Regardless, the math doesn't lie. 245/30 & 285/25 is the correct +2 sizing for the W211 E55/E63.
Ok thanks
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Originally Posted by STR3ZZ
That's the problem the guy I bought it don't know the specs and he can't find his receipt when he bought it from fletcher jones Mercedes in SoCal. All he said was amg wheels cost him $800/wheel or something ... The only reason he sell cheap is because need a bit refinish on both rear wheels but front are perfect. Thinking of powder coat them gun metal

Those aren't AMG wheels. They appear to be TSW Bremmas. They were a very popular, inexpensive, knock-off wheel, back in the day. The whole set was probably $800 when new.

Search the forum keyword "bremma", you'll find lots of pics/info etc...

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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
Those aren't AMG wheels. They appear to be TSW Bremmas. They were a very popular, inexpensive, knock-off wheel, back in the day. The whole set was probably $800 when new.

Search the forum keyword "bremma", you'll find lots of pics/info etc...
I texted the guy that I bought it from and he found a receipt when they replaced 1 of the wheel and it cost $800/wheel



How do u know is fake??? He owned cl55 amg, zr1 corvette and his wife driving BMW M6... I don't think rich people buy fake or Mercedes dealer sale fake wheel ....
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Why don't you measure the wheels and measure the offset and get the actual hard numbers!

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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 02:19 PM
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Why don't you measure the wheels and measure the offset and get the actual hard numbers!

http://youtu.be/BAxJBWUM9Jo
I saw that video and though about it too but the day that I got it I dropped it off to a shop to get it refinish from road rash and scratched and will be powder coat gun metal so no chrome. Won't get it back in a week or so. I'll play with it once I get it back
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Originally Posted by STR3ZZ
I texted the guy that I bought it from and he found a receipt when they replaced 1 of the wheel and it cost $800/wheel



How do u know is fake??? He owned cl55 amg, zr1 corvette and his wife driving BMW M6... I don't think rich people buy fake or Mercedes dealer sale fake wheel ....
Okey dokey, sound like you've got it figured out. Rich people only buy expensive things. Got it. Never said they were fake. That implies some sort of deceptive behavior by the dealer, and I'm not suggesting that. However, they certainly appear to be aftermarket AMG replica wheels, and TSW Bremma's at that. All Mercedes wheels are stamped with an MB part number. Generally beginning with the letter A, and followed by the chassis number 230, 211, etc... I believe authentic AMG wheels were made in Italy, by a company called Ronal.

That receipt shows install of (1) SET of wheels. $895.00

"Client requests install of chrome wheels" And they don't look chrome in that pic, they look machined, but that's minutia at this point.

They're Bremma's, dude. Not a huge deal, as they were widely popular, look decent, and the $275.00 you paid seems reasonable. So to answer you original question about it being a good deal? Yeah, probably. Depends on how much refinishing the rears need.


Here's a search of the MBWorld classified for those same wheels. Price is kinda all over the place.

https://mbworld.org/forums/search.php?searchid=12601439

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BoR is correct. Those are TSW Bremmas. I used to have a set. They had clearcoat peeling issues as well.

As far as the dealer, dealers sell aftermarket items all the time. It's not uncommon.
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