ASK: what is your preferred tyres brand ?
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E 63S Wagon Renntech, E55 Renntech, SL65, SL 55 030, ML, bunch of old ones--they come, they go...
I was.....
going to leave this alone, but this last post reminded me of one more thing.....
Having worked in and around the industry for 30 ish years, I will remind you of this.
One of the main reasons that many high-end manufacturers use Michelin is that they complement their cars the most. They have LESS customer complaints of ride quality, radial pull, noise, etc from Michelins than the other brands. People often have unrealistic expecatations about ride quality or noise from these expensive cars, and using Michelins neutralizes most of those complaints. They don't like it--generally, Michelin is a pain to deal with--but it makes for less end user headaches for them.
Out.
Having worked in and around the industry for 30 ish years, I will remind you of this.
One of the main reasons that many high-end manufacturers use Michelin is that they complement their cars the most. They have LESS customer complaints of ride quality, radial pull, noise, etc from Michelins than the other brands. People often have unrealistic expecatations about ride quality or noise from these expensive cars, and using Michelins neutralizes most of those complaints. They don't like it--generally, Michelin is a pain to deal with--but it makes for less end user headaches for them.
Out.
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going to leave this alone, but this last post reminded me of one more thing.....
Having worked in and around the industry for 30 ish years, I will remind you of this.
One of the main reasons that many high-end manufacturers use Michelin is that they complement their cars the most. They have LESS customer complaints of ride quality, radial pull, noise, etc from Michelins than the other brands. People often have unrealistic expecatations about ride quality or noise from these expensive cars, and using Michelins neutralizes most of those complaints. They don't like it--generally, Michelin is a pain to deal with--but it makes for less end user headaches for them.
Out.
Having worked in and around the industry for 30 ish years, I will remind you of this.
One of the main reasons that many high-end manufacturers use Michelin is that they complement their cars the most. They have LESS customer complaints of ride quality, radial pull, noise, etc from Michelins than the other brands. People often have unrealistic expecatations about ride quality or noise from these expensive cars, and using Michelins neutralizes most of those complaints. They don't like it--generally, Michelin is a pain to deal with--but it makes for less end user headaches for them.
Out.
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2006 W211
Still can't decide what to go with. Live in Houston Tx, mainly hot and rainy here. I almost did a 360 on the freeway in the last rainstorm so i gotta buy a new set. Im running 19s.
Here is what i have narrowed it down to. About my driving. I don't drive much and cruise on the freeway at around 80mph. Very rarely get on it unless someone in a bmw tries to pull next to me. Usually only at a role but sometimes at the light. I have been told that i take corners rough... guess its the urge..Looking to buy a new set within the next week. I have a set of hankook v12s. Will never buy them ever again. They are quite first 1000 miles, then they are loud and rough. They don't grip for ****. I remember dropping down to 3rd on the freeway and punching it, ...traction light comes on. Now it comes on a daily basis. So on the new set here is what I'm ideally looking for. Comfortable ride, Quiet (i can take a little bit of sound, but I'm sure you guys know some of these tires are ridiculously loud.) Something that last, the hankooks lasted me about a year. i would say under 10k for sure. Minimal vibration inside the car. And something that grips decently. Like i said its very few times i punch it from a stop. But i def want something that grips in the rain. We tend to have so crazy downpours that come out of nowhere and the last thing i want to worry about is my car spinning out on the freeway. After researching on this forum and other sites. Here is a list that i came up with. Ranked from highest to lowest.
1. Pilot Super Sport
2. Pilot® Sport A/S 3
3. Potenza RE970AS Pole Position
4. Nitto NT555 (seems like these have the lowest tread wear rating.
Here is what i have narrowed it down to. About my driving. I don't drive much and cruise on the freeway at around 80mph. Very rarely get on it unless someone in a bmw tries to pull next to me. Usually only at a role but sometimes at the light. I have been told that i take corners rough... guess its the urge..Looking to buy a new set within the next week. I have a set of hankook v12s. Will never buy them ever again. They are quite first 1000 miles, then they are loud and rough. They don't grip for ****. I remember dropping down to 3rd on the freeway and punching it, ...traction light comes on. Now it comes on a daily basis. So on the new set here is what I'm ideally looking for. Comfortable ride, Quiet (i can take a little bit of sound, but I'm sure you guys know some of these tires are ridiculously loud.) Something that last, the hankooks lasted me about a year. i would say under 10k for sure. Minimal vibration inside the car. And something that grips decently. Like i said its very few times i punch it from a stop. But i def want something that grips in the rain. We tend to have so crazy downpours that come out of nowhere and the last thing i want to worry about is my car spinning out on the freeway. After researching on this forum and other sites. Here is a list that i came up with. Ranked from highest to lowest.
1. Pilot Super Sport
2. Pilot® Sport A/S 3
3. Potenza RE970AS Pole Position
4. Nitto NT555 (seems like these have the lowest tread wear rating.
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07 E63 + 07 CLK63CAB
PSS work for me,, but truthfully any tire that has minimal tread will hydroplane during heavy down pour as the tread cannot cut through the water but ride on top. You may have to replace the tires before the wear bars tell you to.
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W212 E63 AMG S Model
Hankook V12 Evo suck... they're decent in rain / snow but can't hook for crap. I break the tires loose in second gear all the time and my car only has a Eurocharged tune. My old Dunlop Direzza's wouldn't do this.
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E 63S Wagon Renntech, E55 Renntech, SL65, SL 55 030, ML, bunch of old ones--they come, they go...
Small word of caution....
My tire guy says they are having a good many radial pull problems with the new a/s. Just make sure you check it out, and have someone that you trust to mount/dismount/balance, since you may have to do it more than once..
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Audi S4 (sold), E46 M3 (sold) 05 E55 silver/black(sold)
Update. The Falken Azenis FK453's I was running worked great but did not last long. Barely got 8,000 miles out of them, no racing, maybe half a dozen hard launches but mostly a lot of freeway and sedate around town driving. Won't be doing that again.
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My favorite street tire to date is the Michelin Pilot Super Sport. I've ran these in my M3 and even did a few track days with them, they're a great tire. My buddy just got sponsored by Falken Tire and got me 4 RT615k's for the E55 in a 275/35/18 for less then half of what they retail for. I will use these on the rears only since my fronts last 2-3 times longer.
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My favorite street tire to date is the Michelin Pilot Super Sport. I've ran these in my M3 and even did a few track days with them, they're a great tire. My buddy just got sponsored by Falken Tire and got me 4 RT615k's for the E55 in a 275/35/18 for less then half of what they retail for. I will use these on the rears only since my fronts last 2-3 times longer.
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Michelins are awesome.
The wear factor largely has to do with your right foot as well.
I've been on mine for almost 6K miles and they're by far the best tire I've used on any of my cars in all weather conditions.
The wear factor largely has to do with your right foot as well.
I've been on mine for almost 6K miles and they're by far the best tire I've used on any of my cars in all weather conditions.
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I had a set of Hankook V12's, didn't have any problem with them except they wore out kinda fast. Got around 15K miles out of the set. Dry traction was good. Wet traction was ok for a big, powerful rear drive car, but that's why you slow down in the rain.
I've got Kumho Ecsta ASX's now, have around 3K miles on them and they still look like new.
FWIW I drive like a grandpa and most of my miles are freeway.
I've got Kumho Ecsta ASX's now, have around 3K miles on them and they still look like new.
FWIW I drive like a grandpa and most of my miles are freeway.
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I'm thinking of trying the Michelin pilot sport as3 its about the only one I haven't tried. What does radial pull mean?
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2005 E55 Black, 2007 GL450 Carneol Red
I just did some comparing yesterday of actual sizes between Continental ExtremeContact DWS and Michelin Pilot Super Sport that I'll detail in this other thread, but also used a nice TireRack Survey comparison between Michelin Pilot Super Sport, and Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3, and Continental ExtremeContact DWS that I'll list here:
Summary:
Continental is rated very good for an All Season that includes Winter/Snow... (I have a separate set of Winter tires (Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D), so I don't need or want an "all season".)
If no Snow or Ice, the Michelin Sport A/S 3 is the better all season.
Summer only - Pilot Super Sport has the best comfort ride/noise and edges out Sport A/S 3 when Dry, but just slightly behind the Sport A/S 3 when Wet.
So I'd probably get the PSS, but they're not available in 285/30ZR19 and I don't believe the 295/30ZR19 will fit when using my ET28 rear wheels (they're a full inch wider tread than the 295/30ZR19 Continentals!!), so for my next summer tires, it looks like the Michelin Sport A/S 3 is my best choice (unless I shave off some offset from my rear wheels
).
P.S. with an update:
I went with Michelin 275/35ZR19 PS A/S 3 mounted on my SL55/CLS55 19" wheels M-B # A2194011602 19x9.5 ET28. I knew even those would be tight, so I rolled the rear fenders with a fender roller - which gave me another 1/4" of outer clearance. Even with that, the RH Rear 275/35ZR19 Michelin on the 19x9.5 ET28 will occasionally rub in Sport 1 mode over a hard bump. (The Pirelli 285/30ZR19 PZero on the same wheels never rubbed - even without the fenders rolled!) These Michelins are about an inch wider than other brands with the same size spec.
The front fenders were tougher with the fender roller as they flex more before the lip starts bending up. I mounted Michelin 255/35ZR19 PS A/S 3 on the SL55/CLS55 19" front wheels # A2194011502 19x8.5 ET25 and I've heard them rub once.
So for the wider Michelins on my 2005 E55 with the SL/CLS wheels, 245/35ZR19 would be a safer size on these low offset front 8.5" ET25 wheels, and 265/35ZR19 on the rear 9.5" ET28 wheels.
I'm amazed at how quiet these Michelins are! (Hoping they stay that way.)
Code:
PSS SportA/S3 ExContactDWS
Wet Hydroplaning Resistance: 9.0 9.2 8.8
Wet Traction: 9.2 9.3 8.9
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Dry Cornering Stability: 9.6 9.2 8.2
Dry Traction: 9.6 9.4 8.8
Dry Steering Response: 9.4 9.2 8.2
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Light Snow Traction: n/a 6.4 8.3
Deep Snow Traction: n/a 5.2 7.5
Ice Traction: n/a 5.0 7.2
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Ride Comfort: 9.0 8.4 8.6
Noise Comfort: 8.8 8.2 8.3
Treadwear: 8.5 8.3 8.3
UTQG(Wear Traction Temp): 300 AA A 500 AA A 540 A A
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Warranty (Staggered = half): 30k 45k none
Would Buy Again?: 9.2 7.9 7.7
Continental is rated very good for an All Season that includes Winter/Snow... (I have a separate set of Winter tires (Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D), so I don't need or want an "all season".)
If no Snow or Ice, the Michelin Sport A/S 3 is the better all season.
Summer only - Pilot Super Sport has the best comfort ride/noise and edges out Sport A/S 3 when Dry, but just slightly behind the Sport A/S 3 when Wet.
So I'd probably get the PSS, but they're not available in 285/30ZR19 and I don't believe the 295/30ZR19 will fit when using my ET28 rear wheels (they're a full inch wider tread than the 295/30ZR19 Continentals!!), so for my next summer tires, it looks like the Michelin Sport A/S 3 is my best choice (unless I shave off some offset from my rear wheels
).P.S. with an update:
I went with Michelin 275/35ZR19 PS A/S 3 mounted on my SL55/CLS55 19" wheels M-B # A2194011602 19x9.5 ET28. I knew even those would be tight, so I rolled the rear fenders with a fender roller - which gave me another 1/4" of outer clearance. Even with that, the RH Rear 275/35ZR19 Michelin on the 19x9.5 ET28 will occasionally rub in Sport 1 mode over a hard bump. (The Pirelli 285/30ZR19 PZero on the same wheels never rubbed - even without the fenders rolled!) These Michelins are about an inch wider than other brands with the same size spec.
The front fenders were tougher with the fender roller as they flex more before the lip starts bending up. I mounted Michelin 255/35ZR19 PS A/S 3 on the SL55/CLS55 19" front wheels # A2194011502 19x8.5 ET25 and I've heard them rub once.
So for the wider Michelins on my 2005 E55 with the SL/CLS wheels, 245/35ZR19 would be a safer size on these low offset front 8.5" ET25 wheels, and 265/35ZR19 on the rear 9.5" ET28 wheels.
I'm amazed at how quiet these Michelins are! (Hoping they stay that way.)
Last edited by Kropf; Jun 30, 2014 at 01:50 AM. Reason: Purchase update.
