W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 08:28 PM
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Ignition timing

I have a question, what do you guys who view or datalog your sensors see for timing at the OBD port?
I am seeing timing always in the negative values and it's throwing me off. I am used to seeing timing in the 30s to 40s for EVERY OTHER car I have looked or tuned, but for the E55, I am seeing negative 20s to negative 30s and the same under WOT (mid to low negative 20s).

Is this normal??? Are OBD scanners simply reading in reverse?
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 08:39 PM
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Timing will be diff from car to car because of mods, tune, iats . The obd is notoriously slow on these cars also so try to log only timibg if you want true timing
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 10:42 PM
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Timing should show up in negative values since its degrees before top dead center. When I used to log my BMWs it would show in negative values also. But with forced induction engines it should be way lower. I would guess in the upper teens or low low 20s. N/A cars will be in the 30-40 range.
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 11:28 PM
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Interesting BmwBob, I have logged many a cars but never a European car. All the american and Japanese cars I've logged always showed values in the positives unless something was very wrong
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 11:35 PM
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I am used to seeing the negative numbers with my previous cars so I think that's just how the germans do it. What are you using to log with? I will be in the market to some such equipment soon and any insight would be appreciated.
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 11:43 PM
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Actron OBDII scanner, just make sure it's a model that can read PIDs.
Doesn't do much but give me generic codes and lets me see the live sensor values
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