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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 12:33 AM
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--P0106-Powertrain faulty code-- thoughts??

I just got this code first time ever i've never seen it before it reads:

P0106 Power-train
Manifold Absolute Pressure/Barometric
Pressure Circuit Range/Performance Problem

car runs fine no issue, had a slight rough idle at first than went back to normal... I cleared the code so we'll see if it comes back again but i did a bit of a research and i saw some saying it could be the MAP Sensor??? shown on link below

Part #: 005-153-50-28-M14

http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/...ELSENS_pg5.htm
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 04:38 AM
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The code and the rough idle are both associated with the hiccup issue. Are you monitoring AFRs?
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 05:11 AM
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I have no hick up issues
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by berti_00
I have no hick up issues
I'm not saying you do. All I'm saying is that the symptoms mentioned are associated with the hiccup issue. With my car, if I was not monitoring AFRs, I would often not be able to detect that the car was in hiccup mode. Hence my enquiry to you as to whether you are monitoring AFRs.
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 09:24 AM
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What is your definition of hiccup mode? If it hiccups and you can't detect it, how is it in hiccup mode?

Originally Posted by ajm55
I'm not saying you do. All I'm saying is that the symptoms mentioned are associated with the hiccup issue. With my car, if I was not monitoring AFRs, I would often not be able to detect that the car was in hiccup mode. Hence my enquiry to you as to whether you are monitoring AFRs.
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 09:26 AM
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its TB related im pretty sure most of us have this issue I will try resolving it next week
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by turbo97se
What is your definition of hiccup mode? If it hiccups and you can't detect it, how is it in hiccup mode?
I can speak only to my own experiences here. Sometimes my car will bring up an engine check light and, with it, the P0106 code will show on my DashDAQ. Then I know it's in hiccup mode and that my AFRs will lean out when going from closed loop into open loop. On other occasions, no engine check light or code will show but my AFRs will nevertheless go from regular to leaning out when going from closed loop into open loop. The irregular leaning out of the AFRs tells me it's in hiccup mode. Sometimes switching the ignition off and then immediately on again will take the car out of hiccup mode (i.e. will regularise the AFRs) and sometimes it won't. Invariably, when my car is in hiccup mode, the idle will intermittently become irregular. Hope that helps
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm55
I can speak only to my own experiences here. Sometimes my car will bring up an engine check light and, with it, the P0106 code will show on my DashDAQ. Then I know it's in hiccup mode and that my AFRs will lean out when going from closed loop into open loop. On other occasions, no engine check light or code will show but my AFRs will nevertheless go from regular to leaning out when going from closed loop into open loop. The irregular leaning out of the AFRs tells me it's in hiccup mode. Sometimes switching the ignition off and then immediately on again will take the car out of hiccup mode (i.e. will regularise the AFRs) and sometimes it won't. Invariably, when my car is in hiccup mode, the idle will intermittently become irregular. Hope that helps
^^+1^^,

Besides; (p0106) in somehow caused from air leaks between TB and kompressor or Y-pipe or TB gasket, this air leak interrupt the MAP sensor, which through that code to ECU, specially after 650 RPM,

if you have a contact cleaner, spray the suspected area to pointing-out the problem area,,



BTW; MB replaced the # from (Bosch)005 153 50 28 to (DC/R Japan)005 153 72 28, any idea why...??

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Originally Posted by ajm55
I can speak only to my own experiences here. Sometimes my car will bring up an engine check light and, with it, the P0106 code will show on my DashDAQ. Then I know it's in hiccup mode and that my AFRs will lean out when going from closed loop into open loop. On other occasions, no engine check light or code will show but my AFRs will nevertheless go from regular to leaning out when going from closed loop into open loop. The irregular leaning out of the AFRs tells me it's in hiccup mode. Sometimes switching the ignition off and then immediately on again will take the car out of hiccup mode (i.e. will regularise the AFRs) and sometimes it won't. Invariably, when my car is in hiccup mode, the idle will intermittently become irregular. Hope that helps
^^ this. You need to have a wideband installed so you can tell if it goes lean or not. When mine throws that code , it also goes into a lean condition anytime the throttle is depressed more than slight acceleration. Sometimes I can "feel" when this happens and confirm on the wideband since now I'm tuned into it. Other times I cannot tell and purely rely on the wideband to tell me.
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Just got this code tonight, on my CLS55, I didn't feel any hiccup then but I think I felt it earlier when the car kinda lunged forward a couple of times, I just thought it was the tranny, but something potentially worse actually happenned...

I took a wrong turn into a dead end street, when I stopped to turn around, the car simply would not go into gear, put in on R, nothing, put it on D, nothing, gave it gas, and it like I was in Neutral. Eurocharged did my TCU, I will let them know this happenned, it had never happenned before.

I don't know if both issues are related, but I hope neither happens again.

Have people find a solution to the hiccup?
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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 06:06 AM
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mine was just a random thing... Perfect now
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berti have you had any more issues with this code p0106? I just got this code on my way home last night from the movies. I have to get on the highway to get home so this is the second time that this has happened. last week it happened where I lost power I guess it went into limp mode and had no codes at all , I shut it off and started it back up and everything is ok. this time it happened again but a code came up p0106. now this all started when I got 77mm FSP. is it in the tune? or is it something else. I cleared the code and is running ok for now. I guess when I try to open her up on the highway is when this is happening. any thoughts?
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berti have you had any more issues with this code p0106? I just got this code on my way home last night from the movies. I have to get on the highway to get home so this is the second time that this has happened. last week it happened where I lost power I guess it went into limp mode and had no codes at all , I shut it off and started it back up and everything is ok. this time it happened again but a code came up p0106. now this all started when I got 77mm FSP. is it in the tune? or is it something else. I cleared the code and is running ok for now. I guess when I try to open her up on the highway is when this is happening. any thoughts?
no issues at all...
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Im having issues with this hiccup. Has anyone come up with a solution? Will a retune work?
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@ghlainez B.I.P. says they have a fix for it at least it worked for one member here.
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Originally Posted by berti_00
mine was just a random thing... Perfect now
I have the AFR sensor, and my car did not lean out, I got the P0106 code, I was told it is usually a faulty MAP sensor.

Issues I've experience, no boost, and I do mean Zero boost, also, sometimes my car would have some pretty awkward cold starts, like it's not getting enough air, like it is gasping... Haven't swapped the MAP sensor yet, idle and boost issues come off and on very randomly.

Berti, how did you solve the problem?

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For me what I did was replaced the hose that goes into The aluminum piece that goes behind The supercharger... I used clamps on both ends pushed the aluminum piece as far as I could and tightened the bolt on the valve cover so it's super snug and I have not had any sort of issues...

Maybe this isn't your problem though but worth the check...
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Originally Posted by berti_00
For me what I did was replaced the hose that goes into The aluminum piece that goes behind The supercharger... I used clamps on both ends pushed the aluminum piece as far as I could and tightened the bolt on the valve cover so it's super snug and I have not had any sort of issues...

Maybe this isn't your problem though but worth the check...
I'm curious, would you please share what short of hose and clamps did you use?, this could come in handy for a lot of us

Did you ever experience your car feeling like it was gasping for air or idling weirdly on start up?

Thanks berti!

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It's the hose that is next to the fuel line... You can't miss it on the corner far right. Mine was pretty lose and the hose was just so old.
Yahh car had idle issues and than Cel..
Never seen it again

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