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Old 05-08-2014, 04:36 PM
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Delete SBC?

I searched but i couldn´t find any info on this. Could the SBC system be deleted?

The facelift W211 came without the system. Is it possible to have an SBC car converted to the facelift system?

Might be a dumb question but since i´m no engineer, might as well be the one to ask.
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Originally Posted by Zed82
I searched but i couldn´t find any info on this. Could the SBC system be deleted?

The facelift W211 came without the system. Is it possible to have an SBC car converted to the facelift system?

Might be a dumb question but since i´m no engineer, might as well be the one to ask.
No.
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No.
Thank you for a thorough answer. Now i know why it won´t work.
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Thank you for a thorough answer. Now i know why it won´t work.
SBC is Traction and Stability control along with ABS and the brake proportioning valve. There isn't really a master cylinder and there isn't a brake booster. The pedal assembly would have to be changed out since ours is a hall sensor with a feel simulator on it.

At least 6 ECU's are tied into the SBC....

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SBC is Traction and Stability control along with ABS and the brake proportioning valve. There isn't really a master cylinder and there isn't a brake booster. The pedal assembly would have to be changed out since ours is a hall sensor with a feel simulator on it.

At least 6 ECU's are tied into the SBC....

Any more questions?
See now. That´s a much better answer.

So, short and concise, SBC is so integrated with our cars that it´s impossible to delete it for a reasonable amount of time and money. Might as well buy a new SBC unit if the old one burnes out. Thanks.
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I am not sure of this....If the old one goes I think you can get the accumulator for around 400$ in the USA ....if you have star/ DAS and are handy/savvy .....you get the idea.....
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I am not sure of this....If the old one goes I think you can get the accumulator for around 400$ in the USA ....if you have star/ DAS and are handy/savvy .....you get the idea.....
Sinspeed in England will repair the old unit for approx. £4-600 depending on the repair.
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I am not sure of this....If the old one goes I think you can get the accumulator for around 400$ in the USA ....if you have star/ DAS and are handy/savvy .....you get the idea.....
Hi

I just went through that exact process 2 days ago.

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I also believe that there were structural changes to the firewall when they went away from sbc. I don't believe a standard brake booster will even fit. Having never tried, I'm only assuming though.
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Originally Posted by AMGPilot
SBC is Traction and Stability control along with ABS and the brake proportioning valve. There isn't really a master cylinder and there isn't a brake booster. The pedal assembly would have to be changed out since ours is a hall sensor with a feel simulator on it.

At least 6 ECU's are tied into the SBC....

Any more questions?
First thought that came to my mind.
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Originally Posted by OZZYAMG
Hi

I just went through that exact process 2 days ago.

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hello OZZYAMG,
having the same issue at the moment. Failed sbc, wreckers tell me they’ve sold like 20 units in the last few months. Did you have yours repaired or replaced?
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hello OZZYAMG,
having the same issue at the moment. Failed sbc, wreckers tell me they’ve sold like 20 units in the last few months. Did you have yours repaired or replaced?
MB has extended the warranty on the SBC unit for 25 years. Hope that helps.
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MB has extended the warranty on the SBC unit for 25 years. Hope that helps.
thanks machild, unfortunately not in Australia. It seems we are funding the “warranty” replacements for the rest of the world. They are charging $4995 for the part only in Australia.
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thanks machild, unfortunately not in Australia. It seems we are funding the “warranty” replacements for the rest of the world. They are charging $4995 for the part only in Australia.
I replaced my SBC unit the other month (Brisbane based). Of course it'll cost you a huge amount if you go to the dealer... my advice is don't. Buy a brand new one from here: https://australianecurepair.com.au/p...ydraulic-unit/ and then either get your local specialist/mechanic to fit it for you, or if you have the STAR laptop diagnostics and a motive bleeder tool, you can DIY quite easily.
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Originally Posted by AMGPilot
SBC is Traction and Stability control along with ABS and the brake proportioning valve. There isn't really a master cylinder and there isn't a brake booster. The pedal assembly would have to be changed out since ours is a hall sensor with a feel simulator on it.

At least 6 ECU's are tied into the SBC....

Any more questions?
What ECU's are you referring to? I'm going to attempt the conversion.

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