Lowering module - error
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Lowering module - error
I had Programa ELM moved from '09 E63 to '07 E63.
The raise & lower function in center console no longer works, but it did when module was installed in '09.
Also get 'Airmatic' error in display. Shop cleared code but it comes back.
They contacted Programa, but they did not have an answer.
The raise & lower function in center console no longer works, but it did when module was installed in '09.
Also get 'Airmatic' error in display. Shop cleared code but it comes back.
They contacted Programa, but they did not have an answer.
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Correction: The error on the display is not 'Airmatic' but 'Malfunction' with graphic of car & up arrow.
Additionally, the Adaptive dampening control does not work either.
Programa said some years/models can be slightly different, but he did not have solution.
Same tech did both cars
I'll have wiring checked one more time.
Additionally, the Adaptive dampening control does not work either.
Programa said some years/models can be slightly different, but he did not have solution.
Same tech did both cars
I'll have wiring checked one more time.
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They SHOULD be the same, but don't some cars have 3 wire sensors and others 4 wire sensors?
Also, it seems like the original instructions had the color or pin # of a wire listed incorrectly and sent out new instructions at some point.
Just going from memory….
Also, it seems like the original instructions had the color or pin # of a wire listed incorrectly and sent out new instructions at some point.
Just going from memory….
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It was also causing the trans. to shift very hard. Wiring was apparently correct.
Shop removed the module. Dampening control, raise & lower function, and trans are back to normal.
Used STAR to lower car instead.
Shop removed the module. Dampening control, raise & lower function, and trans are back to normal.
Used STAR to lower car instead.
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Hi guys, I am owner of an E55AMG'05. My car has an airmatic problem. The diagnosis gives these fault codes (5132-left side airmatic sensor/5142-right side airmatic sensor/5152-rear airmatic sensor)
Airmatic kompressor works fine up and down.
The problem is that car's left side is 12mm down then right side or opposite! (right side is 12mm upper then left side)
While we connect the car to diagnosis,we made felt and right at same balance but whenever disconnect from diagnosis and try to up or down the airmatic, the problem occurs again.
I think a wire contact to chasis,also deaits of the fault code says the same.
If somebody had the same problem,then help me where to start?
Thanks. I am sorry about my english,hope you understand well.
Note: sensors are fine,sockets are fine.
Airmatic kompressor works fine up and down.
The problem is that car's left side is 12mm down then right side or opposite! (right side is 12mm upper then left side)
While we connect the car to diagnosis,we made felt and right at same balance but whenever disconnect from diagnosis and try to up or down the airmatic, the problem occurs again.
I think a wire contact to chasis,also deaits of the fault code says the same.
If somebody had the same problem,then help me where to start?
Thanks. I am sorry about my english,hope you understand well.
Note: sensors are fine,sockets are fine.
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Have you tried checking all the wiring connections that control those suspension functions at the modules under the right side footwell under the carpet? Maybe moved to the otherside for non US cars...
My thought is maybe a lowering module was installed at some point in the past, uninstalled, and now maybe some of the wiring is not maintaining a good connection?
My thought is maybe a lowering module was installed at some point in the past, uninstalled, and now maybe some of the wiring is not maintaining a good connection?
Hi guys, I am owner of an E55AMG'05. My car has an airmatic problem. The diagnosis gives these fault codes (5132-left side airmatic sensor/5142-right side airmatic sensor/5152-rear airmatic sensor)
Airmatic kompressor works fine up and down.
The problem is that car's left side is 12mm down then right side or opposite! (right side is 12mm upper then left side)
While we connect the car to diagnosis,we made felt and right at same balance but whenever disconnect from diagnosis and try to up or down the airmatic, the problem occurs again.
I think a wire contact to chasis,also deaits of the fault code says the same.
If somebody had the same problem,then help me where to start?
Thanks. I am sorry about my english,hope you understand well.
Note: sensors are fine,sockets are fine.
Airmatic kompressor works fine up and down.
The problem is that car's left side is 12mm down then right side or opposite! (right side is 12mm upper then left side)
While we connect the car to diagnosis,we made felt and right at same balance but whenever disconnect from diagnosis and try to up or down the airmatic, the problem occurs again.
I think a wire contact to chasis,also deaits of the fault code says the same.
If somebody had the same problem,then help me where to start?
Thanks. I am sorry about my english,hope you understand well.
Note: sensors are fine,sockets are fine.
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Have you tried checking all the wiring connections that control those suspension functions at the modules under the right side footwell under the carpet? Maybe moved to the otherside for non US cars...
My thought is maybe a lowering module was installed at some point in the past, uninstalled, and now maybe some of the wiring is not maintaining a good connection?
My thought is maybe a lowering module was installed at some point in the past, uninstalled, and now maybe some of the wiring is not maintaining a good connection?
right side footwell? i didn't check.
Is it the pessenger side? I will try to check it out.
My car is usa car.
I will check some wires,connections and fuses today.
Car goes up and down,airmatic works fine but diagnosis gives right/left/rear sensor fault.Also there is 12mm difference between left and right side.
Is it normal,when i select up or down mode,or comfort/sport/advance mode,should it show in the monitor that changes?
thanks. (it doesnt show any changes in the monitor)
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Sorry, when you apologized for your english, I assumed you had a non US spec car.
Yes, check the connections to the modules in the passenger footwell under the carpet and padding and see of there is any evidence of spliced wires from a previous lowering module install.
Yes it is normal for some variation from side to side measurements, you can always find someone or dealer with a STAR system to recalibrate the values if needed.
When choosing between comfort, sport 1, or sport 2 modes you should see a notification in your speedo display where all the other information is located.
Yes, check the connections to the modules in the passenger footwell under the carpet and padding and see of there is any evidence of spliced wires from a previous lowering module install.
Yes it is normal for some variation from side to side measurements, you can always find someone or dealer with a STAR system to recalibrate the values if needed.
When choosing between comfort, sport 1, or sport 2 modes you should see a notification in your speedo display where all the other information is located.
Thanks for your reply!
right side footwell? i didn't check.
Is it the pessenger side? I will try to check it out.
My car is usa car.
I will check some wires,connections and fuses today.
Car goes up and down,airmatic works fine but diagnosis gives right/left/rear sensor fault.Also there is 12mm difference between left and right side.
Is it normal,when i select up or down mode,or comfort/sport/advance mode,should it show in the monitor that changes?
thanks. (it doesnt show any changes in the monitor)
right side footwell? i didn't check.
Is it the pessenger side? I will try to check it out.
My car is usa car.
I will check some wires,connections and fuses today.
Car goes up and down,airmatic works fine but diagnosis gives right/left/rear sensor fault.Also there is 12mm difference between left and right side.
Is it normal,when i select up or down mode,or comfort/sport/advance mode,should it show in the monitor that changes?
thanks. (it doesnt show any changes in the monitor)
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Sorry, when you apologized for your english, I assumed you had a non US spec car.
Yes, check the connections to the modules in the passenger footwell under the carpet and padding and see of there is any evidence of spliced wires from a previous lowering module install.
Yes it is normal for some variation from side to side measurements, you can always find someone or dealer with a STAR system to recalibrate the values if needed.
When choosing between comfort, sport 1, or sport 2 modes you should see a notification in your speedo display where all the other information is located.
Yes, check the connections to the modules in the passenger footwell under the carpet and padding and see of there is any evidence of spliced wires from a previous lowering module install.
Yes it is normal for some variation from side to side measurements, you can always find someone or dealer with a STAR system to recalibrate the values if needed.
When choosing between comfort, sport 1, or sport 2 modes you should see a notification in your speedo display where all the other information is located.
I couldnt see any box around footwell under the carpet, right or left side
My car is 2005 model,is there any other place?
you mean 'under the carpet' that should i forcely take the footwell and the carpet?
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http://www.renntechmercedes.com/www/...iles/mb_lm.pdf
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Yes under the carpet in the passenger footwell. Maybe this will help
http://www.renntechmercedes.com/www/...iles/mb_lm.pdf
http://www.renntechmercedes.com/www/...iles/mb_lm.pdf
tomarrow morning im gonna open there,but what should i do?
just check the connections? checking is there any contact wires?
is there anything to do?
also there is some airmatic electronics in the baggage,should i do something there?
thanks
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I would look over the lowering module instructions and then look at the wiring to see if there is any evidence of the wires being spliced or cut. If so, then make sure each of the modified wires are not loose and making good contact with the correct pin locations. I would think the airmatic electronics in the trunk are ok since you said everything else is functioning properly.
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I would look over the lowering module instructions and then look at the wiring to see if there is any evidence of the wires being spliced or cut. If so, then make sure each of the modified wires are not loose and making good contact with the correct pin locations. I would think the airmatic electronics in the trunk are ok since you said everything else is functioning properly.
And guess what happent tonight!
my wife was driving with upper suspension mode and she called me,the car scrape to somewhere or floor. I just check the car and front side both and the lowest mode! i mean lower then the normal. especially right side(it was 1cm upper from the right) is scraping the bumper!
tomarrow i will go to bosch car service because they are close to me.
i can not drive like that.
car do not go up even a little.
what do you think? air pressure compressor? or still electronical problem?
this picture,i took a week ago. i checked but there was no wire problem,i cleaned contack wire to body.
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Weird that both sides are down, if it was one side I would say one of the air struts failed. Rarely do two fail at one time. I would say you have a leak in the air lines or distribution block. If the compressor failed the rear would be down too right?
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front right is really down then all other sides.
the module no works!
even a litte up or down.no work.
no fail code or warning on screen.
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b22/8 and b24/3 is front left
b22/9 and b24/4 is front right
b22/3 b24/s is rear
other datas are starts from front left,front right and rear.
i relized that front right voltage is acting opposite of other two sensors (front left and rear)
i mean if other two sensors voltage goes more,front right goes less, or opposites.
also its acceleration sensor is little less that others (2560mv vs 2520mv)
the 3 error codes are b22/8,b22/9 and b22/3 are front left,right and rear level sensors!
where could be the problem?
b22/9 and b24/4 is front right
b22/3 b24/s is rear
other datas are starts from front left,front right and rear.
i relized that front right voltage is acting opposite of other two sensors (front left and rear)
i mean if other two sensors voltage goes more,front right goes less, or opposites.
also its acceleration sensor is little less that others (2560mv vs 2520mv)
the 3 error codes are b22/8,b22/9 and b22/3 are front left,right and rear level sensors!
where could be the problem?
