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Old 12-30-2003, 04:07 PM
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MB 600s are not AMG cars. They are faster than the 55 AMGs.

That would be like a BMW 330i being faster than an M3.
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The Sultan of Brunei had Ferrari make a 456 station wagon just for him. He has hundreds of cars including at least 2 McLaren F1s.
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BMW made an E34 M5 Touring a while back. Heck, I wouldn't mind being buried in it!

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Originally posted by westsidewagon
MB 600s are not AMG cars. They are faster than the 55 AMGs.

That would be like a BMW 330i being faster than an M3.
Not a good analogy. That would be more like a BMW 3 series with a supercharged V8 being faster than an M3.


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or something like a V8 3 Series

It just doesn't make sence.
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you have forgotten talk about a possible M7, while there is already the 760 out there. Im sure they are not well founded, but still. Sure there is overlap there for the informed consumer. There are, however, people who feel one way is more presitigous than the other. While we know the AMG brand, some people associate the "Top of the Line" with having the "600" on the back of their trunks and will pay to get it. Mercedes realizes this and I'm sure that is why the continue to make both.
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The topic of the thread has shifted so I'm going to put it back on track by responding to the posts bashing the RS6.

If you don't like it, pretend it dosen't exist.

If you want to turn fast, get an M5. If you want to go very fast get an RS6. If you want to save a few bucks and look good, get a Jag S-Type R. If you want a little bit of everything, get the E55. As for MB quality, I've heard that it hasn't been so hot in the past few years ,mostly due to problems with the complexity of the COMAND system.
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Cool E55 over RS6, definitely!

If you want a dated looking car with huge depreciation, RS6. If you want a sedan with terrible rides and no map navigation, RS6.

With the new A6 around the corner, I would definitely wait. Why not drive the current E55 for a year, see if you like the new M5, if so, drive the M5 for another year and then trade it in for the new RS6.

MB quality on the E55 has been great. Perfectly happy with it. The same cannot be said about our 2002 Audi A4 Avant 3.0 Quattro which has been in the shop 6 times for a rattle fix. I can deal with occasional electronic issues (they always get fixed sooner or later with new parts), but hard to trace rattles and squeaks is a big no-no in my books.
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If you want to go very fast get an RS6? I've yet to read a review where the RS6 beat the E55. As for the Comand system being complicated, that's another one of those review items that now leaves me scratching my head. Must be the same mentality as those who can't program a VCR. Anything that takes the slightest bit of thought or has you actually DOING something is too complicated.
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Originally posted by EDWARD CONROY
Anything that takes the slightest bit of thought or has you actually DOING something is too complicated.
Please, leave the handicapped alone.

COMAND isn't complicated, it just takes a few more steps that shouldn't be there, but saying it's complicated is baffling me. I agree with Mr. Edward Conroy, the COMAND is (IMO) useless and crappy, but in NO WAY complicated.
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Originally posted by EDWARD CONROY
If you want to go very fast get an RS6? I've yet to read a review where the RS6 beat the E55. As for the Comand system being complicated, that's another one of those review items that now leaves me scratching my head. Must be the same mentality as those who can't program a VCR. Anything that takes the slightest bit of thought or has you actually DOING something is too complicated.
Agree, COMAND is not complicated at all, far more user friendly than iDrive, for example. I prefer dealing with clearly marked buttons over a control knob or touch screen.
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Agree, COMAND is not complicated at all, far more user friendly than iDrive, for example. I prefer dealing with clearly marked buttons over a control knob or touch screen.
My remark about the COMAND system being complicated has nothing really to do with the actual usage of it. I meant to say that from an engineering and electrical standpoint, it's fairly complex. Some cars have had the system freeze on them. Every system, from MMI to iDrive has a sort of logic to it. MMI seems to look a lot like aircraft controls, with "soft buttons"

iDrive is actually quite friendly, but I think they should add in touch-screen redundancy to simplify the whole process. Thankfully, the Rolls Royce, 5 and 6 Series are recieving revised versions of iDrive that include less iDrive only functions.
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iDrive is actually quite friendly, but I think they should add in touch-screen redundancy to simplify the whole process. Thankfully, the Rolls Royce, 5 and 6 Series are recieving revised versions of iDrive that include less iDrive only functions.
My biggest issue with iDrive is the slow screen refresh. I do not find the knob user friendly at all. I would much rather have a joy stick.

Good thing they're moving away from it, the less iDrive only functions, the better.
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Had a weird thing happen today with the Command system. I was listening to FM and it didn't have that kick *** sound I was used to. I had set the bass and treble two notches down from max. I checked and the bass and treble were set mid way and the sound was set to standard. Then I remembered I had turned Command off and on when my 6 disc hung up. Must have reset to factory standards. Just in case there is anyone out there who hasn't set this, try the bass and treble two down from max and make sure sound is set to Logic 7 Surround. It makes a world of difference.
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Originally posted by AREITU
Thankfully, the Rolls Royce, 5 and 6 Series are recieving revised versions of iDrive that include less iDrive only functions.
Thank God the Rolls will be a little easier. I was getting worried since I'll be replacing my wife's car soon.

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