Insulate bottom of SC?
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Insulate bottom of SC?
I remember seeing some members insulating the bottom of their OEM intercooler (underneath the SC) with reflect a gold. Did it make a difference in IATs?
Also, someone mentioned aerogel (http://press.aerogel.com/index.php?s=25881&item=66343). Anybody by chance put this aerogel in the V of our engine/ underneath SC, to shield intercooler from radiant heat of engine?
Thanks ahead for any response.
Also, someone mentioned aerogel (http://press.aerogel.com/index.php?s=25881&item=66343). Anybody by chance put this aerogel in the V of our engine/ underneath SC, to shield intercooler from radiant heat of engine?
Thanks ahead for any response.
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Do not think you will see any measurable temp drop. The SC will pull heat from the heads and it is just hot under the hood anyway, so in minutes, it will all get heat soaked. DO you have your fans turned up on high, to help pull the heat off? Also, your knock sensors are in the valley pan and may not be good to interfer with thier operation, in case the insulation numbs knock in any form.
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Do not think you will see any measurable temp drop. The SC will pull heat from the heads and it is just hot under the hood anyway, so in minutes, it will all get heat soaked. DO you have your fans turned up on high, to help pull the heat off? Also, your knock sensors are in the valley pan and may not be good to interfer with thier operation, in case the insulation numbs knock in any form.
Yes, fans are turned to high...I think.
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A certain generous soul (^right above me there) sent me a package with some Aerogel. I finally got around to pulling the supercharger, so I lined the V, making cutouts for the knock sensors and cabling. Did a test fit with the intercooler and there was no interference. Quick and easy. I can't get a true before/after because I'm also adding a trunk tank and second pump.
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My personal opinion is that does more harm than good. Both the engine block, and the bottom of the blower are radiating heat. These temperatures are similar, and all you're doing here is helping keep the block heat in the block and the blower heat in the blower. Neither which is preferred.
If you want to help that sitch add a small fan and/or some ducting to the valley area. I doubt it'll do much good though.
If you want to help that sitch add a small fan and/or some ducting to the valley area. I doubt it'll do much good though.
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+1 the SC generates heat on it's own, so more air flow over and under + cooler IC water and the intake insulator blocks/gaskets are your best bet.
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Google aerogel. All I know is that from personal experience, it made a difference to me. You can ask Steve at Weistec on my IATs vs others. I hope it works for Denroll. If not, then at least we know from someone with actual experience with this product on an oem sc. But on the chance that it does something positive for IATs on an OEM SC, then at least it is something towards reducing IATs. If not, then at least we know for sure.
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Many members on this forum wouldn't recommend it because they cannot find a direct correlation with HP/TQ gains or drop IAT from WOT.
But since pulling the supercharger is such an easy task, why not try it? It absolutely cannot make anything worse, and I feel it has made a somewhat reasonable difference on my car considering it's not a very hard task to do. To me it's about the efficiency of the entire system, not just the addition of separate cooling mods all together, but hey what do I know lol.
By any reason if you have to access the intercooler anyway, do it. But I don't feel pulling the blower just to wrap the intercooler would be worth the time and energy. Good Luck
But since pulling the supercharger is such an easy task, why not try it? It absolutely cannot make anything worse, and I feel it has made a somewhat reasonable difference on my car considering it's not a very hard task to do. To me it's about the efficiency of the entire system, not just the addition of separate cooling mods all together, but hey what do I know lol.
By any reason if you have to access the intercooler anyway, do it. But I don't feel pulling the blower just to wrap the intercooler would be worth the time and energy. Good Luck
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Heat control and management is one of the needed principle sciences of this car. Removing heat quickly, not letting it soak into other systems, etc.
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Keeping blcok heat n the block is actually beneficial not hurting. Internal combustion engines run better if you can keep em nice and hot both with emissions and power output (all within reason of course). All this and yet you want the air coming it to be as cold as possible.....
While I cannot see the hurt in this idea, I can see it helping, but not so much as in measurable gains on a dyno.
The intercooler can now take out the heat from the blower only, and not the heat radiating from the block which runs waaaaaay hotter than the blower and you kinda want it that way.
Of course in the real world, there is no true isolation going on there, hence the reason people do not see a lot of differences. But quicker recovery should be improved with this Aerogel.
This is like the HE issue to me. I had NO measurable IAT differences between stock and aftermarket HE. But the recovery was seriously different between the two
While I cannot see the hurt in this idea, I can see it helping, but not so much as in measurable gains on a dyno.
The intercooler can now take out the heat from the blower only, and not the heat radiating from the block which runs waaaaaay hotter than the blower and you kinda want it that way.
Of course in the real world, there is no true isolation going on there, hence the reason people do not see a lot of differences. But quicker recovery should be improved with this Aerogel.
This is like the HE issue to me. I had NO measurable IAT differences between stock and aftermarket HE. But the recovery was seriously different between the two
