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Old 01-06-2004, 03:25 PM
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340HP 5.7 Liter V8 with E-Class RWD for $29k?

My next project - 2005 Dodge Magnum R/T

2005 Dodge Magnum SE, SXT and RT
Type of vehicle: Rear-wheel-drive wagon
Engines: SE has a 2.7-liter, V-6; SXT has a 3.5-liter, V-6; RT has a 5.7-liter Hemi V-8
What's cool: Rides on new rwd LX chassis. Positioned as a performance vehicle with optional 340 hp, 5.7-liter Hemi V-8. Shares components with the Mercedes-Benz E-class, including automatic transmission, electrical architecture and steering column.
Power: SE: 190 hp @ 6,400 rpm; SXT: 250 hp @ 6,400 rpm; RT: 340 hp @ 5,000 rpm
Torque: SE: 190 ft.-lbs. @ 4,000 rpm; SXT: 250 ft.-lbs. @ 4,000 rpm; RT: 390 ft.-lbs. @ 4,000 rpm
Acceleration 0-60 mph: SE-10.7 seconds; SXT-8.5 seconds; RT- 6.3 seconds
Wheelbase: 120 inches
Length: 197.7 inches
Width: 74 inches
Height: 59.3 inches
MSRPs including destination: SE: $22,495; SXT: $25,995; RT: 29,995 What the automaker says: "With rear-wheel drive and an available 5.7-liter Hemi V-8 engine, Dodge Magnum offers a package with proportions unlike any other in the marketplace."
In showrooms: May 2004
Unveiled: Jan 05 2003.




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It gets better - by mid-year a 4-wheel drive version using 4-Matic components will be available as an option on the Magnum and on the 300C. This version will ride 1-inch higher according to the latest Car and Driver.

I had been considering an E500 wagon to replace the wife's 2001 E320 wagon. However while the new wagon looks better it has only 24.5 cu ft of cargo capacity with the second seat up, down from 44 cu ft in the 210 wagon. While the Magnum Hemi only has 27.5 cu ft of cargo capacity it is $25000 less than the 211 E500 wagon with more HP and 210 E-class underpinnings.
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Take a look at the 300C from Chrysler, about the same price but not a wagon, same Hemi engine
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that thing is fugly!
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that thing is fugly!
You are right, but it is "Bad Add"! Who the hell wants a "Pretty" car? Not me! Dodge is for Men! Yeah! It's got a Hemi. Swweeet!

That Magnum Wagon will have more rubber neck appeal and more interest than any E-Class wagon ever had. The E500 wagon with 302HP is twice the price of the Magnum with 340HP. Tuning and aftermarket stuff for these new LX chassis cars will be big.

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i like the shape ok. i aint sayin its gotta be pretty. i mainly just think the front end design looks too goofy. a little unfinished or something. at least based on those shots. and it needs larger wheels too.
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Ok, Kev. On further reflection, maybe under some conditions I would be caught dead in a wagon. lol
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How are its safety features? That's more important to me than power or cargo space.
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Originally posted by jpb5151
How are its safety features? That's more important to me than power or cargo space.
youre on the AMG forum why then?

im sure it has plenty of safety, passive and active, as most modern cars do.
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Originally posted by WannaBeAMG
im sure it has plenty of safety, passive and active, as most modern cars do.
but the next question will be, will it work right???
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How are its safety features? That's more important to me than power or cargo space.
The V8 Hemi will have Mercedes ESP. The first American car with Electronic Stability.

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and it needs larger wheels too.
The Magnum R/T Hemi will have a very tall tire - 225/60/18. Remember this is not the high performance SRT version. This platform will be easy to do 20" wheels without to much comfort sacrifice. The aftermarket upgrade tires will be:

245/45/20
275/40/20 rear
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Dodge Magnum introduction Video in Quicktime:

http://www.dodge.com/autoshow/magnum...y&type=gallery
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Nice video, nice car, but I still like the 300C better


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by pocholin
[B]Nice video, nice car, but I still like the 300C better

I like the 300C Hemi also, but 'I' don't need another sedan. I want something with some utility and hauling features to replace my anemic, slow, lumbering, rollover Explorer Sport Trac.

here is the intro video for the 300C:

http://www.chrysler.com/autoshow/chr...y&type=gallery
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Originally posted by pocholin
Nice video, nice car, but I still like the 300C better





What a car, pray DC does not change anything in its present appearence. The oriental slick look of new Benzes on CLK and E is not much to look at.
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Originally posted by Belmondo
What a car, pray DC does not change anything in its present appearence. The oriental slick look of new Benzes on CLK and E is not much to look at.
I don't think they will change anything because that what they are advertising already, this car fully loaded about $ 38-39k, not bad really.
I was dissapointed on the tire size, only 225 I was expecting 265 or 275.

I read somewhere that it has the same transmission as the E55, same as the Charger.
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Originally posted by pocholin
Nice video, nice car, but I still like the 300C better


I really hope chrysler does well with this car. its damn nice. looks very aggressive.
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Originally posted by Noble C320
I really hope chrysler does well with this car. its damn nice. looks very aggressive.
I think I will be buying that instead of another Benz, reason being, it will be much cheaper to modify and make a killing machine...and I've always liked big sedans, my E is a little on the small side and I can't afford a S class, not a fast AMG anyway.
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I think I will be buying that instead of another Benz, reason being, it will be much cheaper to modify and make a killing machine...and I've always liked big sedans, my E is a little on the small side and I can't afford a S class, not a fast AMG anyway.
I am not a fan of big sedans, mainly because I despise parking!

How big is this suppose to be? Id buy one too. The Hemi version that is!

How did you post pics btw? I want to post this silver one that looks incredible at an angle.
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Originally posted by Noble C320
I am not a fan of big sedans, mainly because I despise parking!

How big is this suppose to be? Id buy one too. The Hemi version that is!

How did you post pics btw? I want to post this silver one that looks incredible at an angle.
Yes, I'm talking about the Hemi version and those cars are supposed to be fairly big following the tradition of american cars.


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Just found this info on the car:

Wheelbase: 120.0 inches (3,048 mm)
Overall length: 196.8 inches (4,999 mm)
Overall width: 74.0 inches (1,880 mm)
Overall height: 58.4 inches (1,483 mm)
Front overhang: 34.3 inches (871 mm)
Rear overhang: 42.5 inches (1,080 mm)
Front track: 63.0 inches (1,600 mm)
Rear track 63.0 inches (1,600 mm)
Estimated weight: 4,000 lbs. (1,808 kg)
Front suspension: Short- and long-arm
Rear suspension: Independent five-bar multi-link


Almost 7" longer than the W210 E class.

and a couple of interior pictures:



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interior looks OK, a little on the plain side, but that's typical for american cars as well
My Impala SS was the most plain car I've ever had, even a 91 Camaro was a better eye catcher when it came to interior dash area.
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Originally posted by pocholin
I don't think they will change anything because that what they are advertising already, this car fully loaded about $ 38-39k, not bad really.
I was dissapointed on the tire size, only 225 I was expecting 265 or 275.

I read somewhere that it has the same transmission as the E55, same as the Charger.
You are right, here is a link to more same pics from detroit auto show. Engine bay looks messy a bit unBenz like but take a look at that huge air intake. 225 may sound bad but after 2.5 years on 18" on my S class I went back to 16" and was pleasantly surprized. The ride is very good and I could swear I have less body lean in the same turns I remember taking every day on 18"'s. May be 255 in front was simply too much. Do you think 225 will be on all models or on base model? The wheels on 300C look different versus base model.

300C at Detroit auto show
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Originally posted by pocholin
interior looks OK, a little on the plain side, but that's typical for american cars as well

Indeed, plain it may be but on the car costing probably $20k less than e320.


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