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Old 04-23-2015, 12:05 AM
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BIP 77 Fixed pulley initial impressions

Hey guys,

For those that saw my auxiliary HE thread you know I was in bad need of a pulley bearing and rather than spend money to fix a stock part I decided to pull the trigger on the FSP. I spent a good bit of time trying to decide between tuners to work with as I was going with a box tune in the beginning and everyone around seems to have different opinions as to who is the best. As this car is my daily driver, reliability was one of my main concerns as well as customer support.

Long story short, I ended up going with B.I.P. and I would like to start by saying Big Thanks to Craig and Tony. My expectations for customer support have been met and after just finishing up my first test drive I'm very happy with the results.

Some things I noticed:

-I havent noticed belt slip... yet. (Craig recommended a 100mm idler pulley to help combat this as an alternative to the bet wrap kit but after trying to install the one I purchased for a Cobra I realized its a little too big and barely touches the tensioner bolt... maybe the one Craig has will fit)(I think I will be doing some grinding later to my tensioner bolt to make it fit but I know this is not something most will want to do)

-The air intake temps definitly go up and cooling is a must. I'm now positive I will have to add another auxiliary HE.

-The mystery FSP noise at idle is barely noticeable... definitely quieter than the stock pulley with a bad bearing lol

-the slight whine at low speed/low throttle input sounds bad-***


So after about an hour dedicated to figuring out the tuning software I spent about two hours removing the old pulley and installing the new one. On a scale of 1-10 this was about a 2 for difficulty other than removing the main bolt on the supercharger pulley. That was difficult but only due to me having to use hand tools only.
The only thing I'm worried about at this point and what I'd like to mention to others to watch out for is the two small dowel pins that line up the pulley... they snapped off when I broke loose the bolt. I'm not sure how this will affect anything at this point but I'll be keeping an eye on it.

I'll update more later after more but right now I'm very happy with the results.

Thanks B.I.P.
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Originally Posted by romeomikehotel
Hey guys,

For those that saw my auxiliary HE thread you know I was in bad need of a pulley bearing and rather than spend money to fix a stock part I decided to pull the trigger on the FSP. I spent a good bit of time trying to decide between tuners to work with as I was going with a box tune in the beginning and everyone around seems to have different opinions as to who is the best. As this car is my daily driver, reliability was one of my main concerns as well as customer support.

Long story short, I ended up going with B.I.P. and I would like to start by saying Big Thanks to Craig and Tony. My expectations for customer support have been met and after just finishing up my first test drive I'm very happy with the results.

Some things I noticed:

-I havent noticed belt slip... yet. (Craig recommended a 100mm idler pulley to help combat this as an alternative to the bet wrap kit but after trying to install the one I purchased for a Cobra I realized its a little too big and barely touches the tensioner bolt... maybe the one Craig has will fit)(I think I will be doing some grinding later to my tensioner bolt to make it fit but I know this is not something most will want to do)

-The air intake temps definitly go up and cooling is a must. I'm now positive I will have to add another auxiliary HE.

-The mystery FSP noise at idle is barely noticeable... definitely quieter than the stock pulley with a bad bearing lol

-the slight whine at low speed/low throttle input sounds bad-***


So after about an hour dedicated to figuring out the tuning software I spent about two hours removing the old pulley and installing the new one. On a scale of 1-10 this was about a 2 for difficulty other than removing the main bolt on the supercharger pulley. That was difficult but only due to me having to use hand tools only.
The only thing I'm worried about at this point and what I'd like to mention to others to watch out for is the two small dowel pins that line up the pulley... they snapped off when I broke loose the bolt. I'm not sure how this will affect anything at this point but I'll be keeping an eye on it.

I'll update more later after more but right now I'm very happy with the results.

Thanks B.I.P.
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I am still juggling over the 77mm clutched or clutchless, tune will definately be from BIP

I hope your data logging everytime you drive

Their tune does not require the resistor does it

** Also in Star SDS when performing the Supercharger Clutch test there is a message saying that there will be noise from the Supercharger Gear Assembly when engaged at low RPM due to Backlash, this is the noise that is heard

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Originally Posted by romeomikehotel
Hey guys,

The only thing I'm worried about at this point and what I'd like to mention to others to watch out for is the two small dowel pins that line up the pulley... they snapped off when I broke loose the bolt. I'm not sure how this will affect anything at this point but I'll be keeping an eye on it.

I'll update more later after more but right now I'm very happy with the results.

Thanks B.I.P.
Wont thedowel pin prevent the pulley from spinning on the supercharger shaft? It still works without them?

Mine are bent, and I was conerned they will eventualy break. Can they be replaced?

I've seen lots of pictures of pulley instals and it looks like almost all of them have bent dowel pins.
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Awesome brotha, glad to help last night at 11pm lol. Let me know if you need any help, I am only a text away
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So,you are running a box tune? Any mods?
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His car was stock as far as go fast mods go I believe.
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...glad to help last night at 11pm lol. Let me know if you need any help, I am only a text away
Did I mention the customer service...

Thanks Craig


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So,you are running a box tune? Any mods?
Correct, no mods other than cooling... just added another auxiliary HE about an hour ago.

I'm definitely going to need a belt wrap kit but for right now I'm still having a ton of fun with the new way the car drives.



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Their tune does not require the resistor does it
No resistor required

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Any Dyno results and graphs?
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Originally Posted by romeomikehotel
just added another auxiliary HE about an hour ago.
Any pics of that?
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Originally Posted by menace2sobriety
Any Dyno results and graphs?
Not yet, that probably wont happen until after a BWK and new spark plugs.

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Any pics of that?
Pics of the first aux. HE can be found in the other thread. The one I added last night can be seen behind the grill mesh, its mounted at a slight angle and painted black.

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My heads gonna explode. too many mixed reviews concerning fixed. I need to buy a pulley and I still don't know what to do...I f*king hate the lag when I mash the peddle.
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You mean that millisecond lag...lol
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It is quite something what that fixed pulley does for the car. You'll really get a feel for how long that millisecond lag actually is.
the part throttle response is nothing short of addictive.
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I've had the fixed pulley 77mm for months now and no issues at all. I will never go back to cluched unless something major would go wrong. The guys at BIP are awsome. when I first installed had a limp mode issue and Tony took care of it asap and dialed it in perfect. took it to track last November. and this was my result.
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Have you been logging? They managed to fix the limp mode remotely or did you get everything done at there shop?
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took it to track last November. and this was my result.
Left lane, I hope?
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Well guys, I may be writing my own saga with FSP soon enough....let's just say if you are willing to invest in datalogging stuff, do it!!!
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Well guys, I may be writing my own saga with FSP soon enough....let's just say if you are willing to invest in datalogging stuff, do it!!!
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Well guys, I may be writing my own saga with FSP soon enough....let's just say if you are willing to invest in datalogging stuff, do it!!!
Looking forward to your review. So far I've had the 74mm pulley on for 4 months already, yet unable to enjoy/review it. Does anyone think the FSP has the ability to cause an engine not to start?

It died on me and I've been unable to turn the car back on for an entire month, taking it today to have ECU reflashed again in hopes that it allows the motor to start.
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