FLE55AMG

larger injectors are easy enough to scale. The TB I think is still the issues because it take two adjustments one from the Star System and one from the ECU tuner. I wonder if there are any clear instructions on how to use the Star System with a step by step.

kponti

No I believe its definitely the larger TB

The richer the part throttle maps (overall) the less problems you will have with the larger TBs IMO. I had at least 12 plus maps between 2 vendors for both FSP and clutched pulleys and that was my conclusion. (Yes I ran a Wideband full time on the car with datalogging ability and gauge)

ghlainez

yes I wonder to. I have star maybe one of the tuners can chime in?

Hulk

You don't need star for anything when you have the bigger tb. Just the tune would fix everything. Some ecu have issue when you go bigger than 80mm, look up the issues denroll and many others have, "hiccup" as they call it.

SoCal55k

I love my FSP, I have an 80mm and constantly watching IATs is the name of the game. I daily drive my car and run the torque app 100% of the time here is what I have seen with my IATs and cooling mods.

FSP + stock HE 25-40 degrees above ambient
FSP + PLM HE 20-30 degrees above ambient
FSP + PLM HE + split cooling 15-25 degrees above ambient

FLE55AMG

Would you think Star per set up before Software flash would help or hurt?

Hulk

Won't make a diff. For some reason still unknown some ecu do not like bigger than 80mm tb. It is tune related, some have said it has been fixed but eventually comes back

FLE55AMG

OOHH good data, I'm also constantly data logging and This is car is my DD. I have seen 14 degrees over cruising most of the time. Suck is slow moving traffic I'm seeing 34-40 over. I look forward to seeing the difference between the stock HE VS PLM in the very near future.

SoCal55k

Yes, traffic is a killer. the worst for me was when I was still running the stock HE, stuck in traffic on the freeway and its 100 degrees outside. Never fails that was always when some little Honda would come buzzing up with its 3 foot tall wing and fart can muffler (Still would smoke them but not as bad as it should have been LOL)

FLE55AMG

Back in the day I had a quick Evo 8 with lots of mods. I got my butt handed to me by a Civic bubble back that shot fire out of exhaust at every shift. I lost to two cars ever in the EVO. The other was a E55 and that just smoked me. I think you can guess which one I bought later LOL. Now with the E55 even stock I have had no issues with any car execpt a Bently but I think that guy was nuts so I pulled it back not to die in a fireball.

SoCal55k

You can stick a big turbo on a civic and go fast but at the end of the day your still driving a Honda

I only seem to see 2 types of drivers in Bentleys, either they are doing 10mph under the speed limit or they are flat out 100% weaving in and out of traffic like they have a death wish.

FLE55AMG

the Civic was NA

Your right about Bentley drivers this guy was

BC928

So FSP has some mileage with customers working, as long as there is patience and probably a custom tune (and time paid to tuner)

And

80mm tb or stock. Because 2mm makes the difference?

Seems like a man could be happy with
Mbh (on the shelf)
77mm FSP (cheap and easy)
Tune (expensive and difficult)
Bigger he and separate routing (maybe trunk tank)
Some meth/water spray

Done.

SoCal55k

I am runningthe stock throttle body. Honestly I didn't find the tunning process to be that difficult, after I installed the original tune I drove it for a couple of days then reported back to Jerry what I was seeing and feeling. Took the second time he sent and have been driving in it ever since.

FLINTY55

I would be curious to see what the air fuel looks like during a stumble with the 82mm. Possibly lean for a spit second during transition?

FLE55AMG

I personally would be a very happy man with that set up

FLINTY55

+1 FLE55AMG

LOLLSX

What did the car make before the pulley and tune? And SC shutoff with this setup?

FLE55AMG

Sorry I did not do a baseline on the dyno. What do you mean about SC Shutoff?

BC928

Any new info? Watching and waiting. Last thing parts I buy will be the pulley and heat exchanger and pieces to put a trunk tank in.

FLE55AMG

I love the power and the instant TQ down low with the fixed pulley, But looking back I should have gotten the clutched pull for the smoother low slow driving I end up doing everyday. I would keep it simple as far as mods

77 upper pulley (fix for more power or clutched for smooth drivablity at lower rpm and speed)
HE PLM (Cheapest bolt on)
010 Pump (Bolt on direct fit)
headers No cats (MBH if Money is no problem)
colder plugs
custom dyno tune by Eurocharged!

BC928

Can you define smooth? Clutch engagement on a properly working E55 is not smooth.

No clutch should actually be smoother, rationally.

romeomikehotel

I would agree, the 77 fixed on my car was great and I barely had to touch the gas to get going. I thought it was very smooth. Only time there was an issue was occasionally was when it would shift up and the rpms would land at 1.8k rpms it would do a small surge but I daily drive it like that for 20k miles with no issues.

FLE55AMG

Smother power delivery not clutch engagement at low around town speeds, it kinda feels like a on off switch if I give it a hair to much gas at lower speed like 2nd gear. My coworkers don't let me drive anymore during lunch.

My stock clutch pulley never really hit hard?

FLE55AMG

Exactly i have 16k ish miles. The rattle noise is annoying but the whine is worth it.