Some info on E55 changes.
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Some info on E55 changes.
Thanks for the comments guys. I picked her up today. OH YEAH. One fine machine.
Good news and bad.
First the bad. Phone wont recieve calls. You can hear the caller but they can't hear you. Do any of the phones work from the factory?
Now, good and hopefully informative news for others still waiting.
Mine arrived with the Bi-xeon headlight package with the cornering lamps. Did not know if the cornering one would come on it or not.
I got an inflatable spare in the trunk with the car. Will post some pics later.
And I won the debate over the stupid doc fee of 3 hundred buck they wanted to do paper work. I told them if I paid that, I would not be a repeat buyer.
Was told that for 2004 free maintance for the 50k miles, but not free for the 2005's.
And I did NOT get hit with the $900 price increase. So I left a happy camper over the deal and estastic over the beast. Only 150 miles on her now, but can tell she wants to run.
Good news and bad.
First the bad. Phone wont recieve calls. You can hear the caller but they can't hear you. Do any of the phones work from the factory?
Now, good and hopefully informative news for others still waiting.
Mine arrived with the Bi-xeon headlight package with the cornering lamps. Did not know if the cornering one would come on it or not.
I got an inflatable spare in the trunk with the car. Will post some pics later.
And I won the debate over the stupid doc fee of 3 hundred buck they wanted to do paper work. I told them if I paid that, I would not be a repeat buyer.
Was told that for 2004 free maintance for the 50k miles, but not free for the 2005's.
And I did NOT get hit with the $900 price increase. So I left a happy camper over the deal and estastic over the beast. Only 150 miles on her now, but can tell she wants to run.
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Originally posted by BoBcanada
so with my 05 i wont get free maintance ??? That sucks...
so with my 05 i wont get free maintance ??? That sucks...
BUT, downsides usually have a upside. MB is bumping the warranty up to 70,000 / 5 years warranty I believe.
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My phone works off the dealership, I'm sure they can fix it in no time.
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From: Boston
'05 A4 1.8TQM6
Originally posted by Signal
You mean 7 years right? Cause it is 5 years already.
You mean 7 years right? Cause it is 5 years already.
they want to bump it up to 5 years / 60,000 or 70,000 miles.
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Isnt the 7 year 100k extended warranty only about $2k though? Seems like the services to 50k would cost more then that, and thus an extension to 5/70,000 hardly seems better then having services included.. Isnt the C service $1200 alone?
Id rather have the service included and buy the extended warranty..
Isnt the 7 year 100k extended warranty only about $2k though? Seems like the services to 50k would cost more then that, and thus an extension to 5/70,000 hardly seems better then having services included.. Isnt the C service $1200 alone?
Id rather have the service included and buy the extended warranty..
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From: Boston
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figure the average driver drives 10-12k / year, thats about a service / year...averages $200-$300 / service...
best case scenario, $800 for the 4 years that would have been included from MB.
worst case scenario, $1200 for the 4 years.
I do not know about service C...I think that's in the w211's...haven't seen it on the w221's or others yet...
but think of it from another perspective. included maintenance may have costed MB extra money to be allocated to dealers for those services. Figure an average of $300 / customer / year. For one customer, it would be $1200 / 4 years * thousands of customers...it add's up. That's on top of warranty work done for repairs.
if MB can reallocate money from this to better testing, better quality, better materials, then it's worth it no? MB didn't have included maintenance before when they were doing better. IMO, I think it's MB's plan to come back and show that's its the exclusive car manufacturer that it's perceived to be.
best case scenario, $800 for the 4 years that would have been included from MB.
worst case scenario, $1200 for the 4 years.
I do not know about service C...I think that's in the w211's...haven't seen it on the w221's or others yet...
but think of it from another perspective. included maintenance may have costed MB extra money to be allocated to dealers for those services. Figure an average of $300 / customer / year. For one customer, it would be $1200 / 4 years * thousands of customers...it add's up. That's on top of warranty work done for repairs.
if MB can reallocate money from this to better testing, better quality, better materials, then it's worth it no? MB didn't have included maintenance before when they were doing better. IMO, I think it's MB's plan to come back and show that's its the exclusive car manufacturer that it's perceived to be.
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Originally posted by GDawgC220
figure the average driver drives 10-12k / year, thats about a service / year...averages $200-$300 / service...
best case scenario, $800 for the 4 years that would have been included from MB.
worst case scenario, $1200 for the 4 years.
I do not know about service C...I think that's in the w211's...haven't seen it on the w221's or others yet...
but think of it from another perspective. included maintenance may have costed MB extra money to be allocated to dealers for those services. Figure an average of $300 / customer / year. For one customer, it would be $1200 / 4 years * thousands of customers...it add's up. That's on top of warranty work done for repairs.
if MB can reallocate money from this to better testing, better quality, better materials, then it's worth it no? MB didn't have included maintenance before when they were doing better. IMO, I think it's MB's plan to come back and show that's its the exclusive car manufacturer that it's perceived to be.
figure the average driver drives 10-12k / year, thats about a service / year...averages $200-$300 / service...
best case scenario, $800 for the 4 years that would have been included from MB.
worst case scenario, $1200 for the 4 years.
I do not know about service C...I think that's in the w211's...haven't seen it on the w221's or others yet...
but think of it from another perspective. included maintenance may have costed MB extra money to be allocated to dealers for those services. Figure an average of $300 / customer / year. For one customer, it would be $1200 / 4 years * thousands of customers...it add's up. That's on top of warranty work done for repairs.
if MB can reallocate money from this to better testing, better quality, better materials, then it's worth it no? MB didn't have included maintenance before when they were doing better. IMO, I think it's MB's plan to come back and show that's its the exclusive car manufacturer that it's perceived to be.
First, it costs MB very little to offer free scheduled maintenance. The problem is that dealerships have not expanded their service departments to handle all the free maintenance for the rapidly growing sales volumes over the last few years, along with regular paid servicde work and warranty repairs. This along with the failing reliability issues have compounded their perceived quality issues and declining customer satisfaction. Dropping free maintenance will relieve some of the overwhelmed service depts.
Now if anyone thinks MB is going to put any of this new revenue generated by declining free scheduled maintenance into better materials, better testing, or better quality, they're sadly mistaken.
The bottom line is that DC profits are dropping, and this will increase profit margin. I highly doubt the price of each car produced in 2005 will reflect a price drop despite offering less value.
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From: Boston
'05 A4 1.8TQM6
Originally posted by Dr Chill
Sorry, but I think this argument is invalid.
First, it costs MB very little to offer free scheduled maintenance. The problem is that dealerships have not expanded their service departments to handle all the free maintenance for the rapidly growing sales volumes over the last few years, along with regular paid servicde work and warranty repairs. This along with the failing reliability issues have compounded their perceived quality issues and declining customer satisfaction. Dropping free maintenance will relieve some of the overwhelmed service depts.
Now if anyone thinks MB is going to put any of this new revenue generated by declining free scheduled maintenance into better materials, better testing, or better quality, they're sadly mistaken.
The bottom line is that DC profits are dropping, and this will increase profit margin. I highly doubt the price of each car produced in 2005 will reflect a price drop despite offering less value.
Sorry, but I think this argument is invalid.
First, it costs MB very little to offer free scheduled maintenance. The problem is that dealerships have not expanded their service departments to handle all the free maintenance for the rapidly growing sales volumes over the last few years, along with regular paid servicde work and warranty repairs. This along with the failing reliability issues have compounded their perceived quality issues and declining customer satisfaction. Dropping free maintenance will relieve some of the overwhelmed service depts.
Now if anyone thinks MB is going to put any of this new revenue generated by declining free scheduled maintenance into better materials, better testing, or better quality, they're sadly mistaken.
The bottom line is that DC profits are dropping, and this will increase profit margin. I highly doubt the price of each car produced in 2005 will reflect a price drop despite offering less value.
but, i do believe that their quality/materials are much better in 2005...they're saving money somewhere or getting more funding to put into the cars themselves to bring their image back up. Every article out there on the 2005 models that have been tested are a world of difference in build and material than the current models now (SLK and C Classes).
i doubt as well that their price will drop, most likely maintain the same price, if not a little higher in 2005.
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From: SF
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i agree about the dealerships' poor ability to service customers properly. in the SF bay area, not only do they charge outrageous $/hr, $90+ i think, but i've never had a quote of less than one week out when i call to make an appoitment. can capacity be THAT BAD for MB svc? if this is a capitalistic economy, why is it taking soooo long for supply to catch up to demand? btw, the well-known independents are not much better on getting appts or getting in. this applies to the Lexus/BMWs as well.
