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Old 05-03-2017, 09:06 AM
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Must have electronics for this car?

Hi guys

Is there some type of device I should buy to monitor important numbers?

Or a thread you can link me to that will have some info on what to buy and look out for?

So far my car is stock... but I want to get baseline information and have something to refer to when I do start making it a bit faster.
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I use the elm327 bluetooth adapter and the "torque" app for android to monitor my AIT and timing along with coolant. All together for both I spent 27$

if u want top of the line good *****... zietronix like hulk said
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I use the elm327 bluetooth adapter and the "torque" app for android to monitor my AIT and timing along with coolant. All together for both I spent 27$

if u want top of the line good *****... zietronix like hulk said
Is there something special about that adapter compared to an ebay one?


I already have a $7 ebay adapted that i use with Torque, I was unaware that app is that capable. I'll buy the full version.

What about Star diagnostics? I'm looking into getting a kit, but I don't really know where to start, I have been searching around but can't find anything conclusive from older threads...
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Order STAR from Shardul, I'll eventually do the same.
Other members have stated his support & help have been invaluable.
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Order STAR from Shardul, I'll eventually do the same.
Other members have stated his support & help have been invaluable.
Shardul is the ****ing man, I didn't know he had sds too
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Star from Shardul for me. Excellent service and support.

Data acquisition if you want the most out of your mods and tune. Zeitronix is the most accepted on this board, I run an LM-2 from Innovate Motorsports for mine. Really a toss up. You will have more support for Zeitronix here as multiple members have one. LM-2 only has two members I know of, me and BlackHammer.

I use Torque Pro only for logging timing. The resolution is just too low to get meaningful data beyond one or two PID's.
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Originally Posted by seanol
Star from Shardul for me. Excellent service and support.

Data acquisition if you want the most out of your mods and tune. Zeitronix is the most accepted on this board, I run an LM-2 from Innovate Motorsports for mine. Really a toss up. You will have more support for Zeitronix here as multiple members have one. LM-2 only has two members I know of, me and BlackHammer.

I use Torque Pro only for logging timing. The resolution is just too low to get meaningful data beyond one or two PID's.

$850 is a bit too steep for me for now, I'll have to put the SDS on hold... just forked over $3600 in preventative maintenance at the local indy (flex discs, spark plugs, tensioner, etc etc). And I got word that my airmatic compressor is taking a ****, $740 to repair with OEM parts, so I think I'll do away with the airmatic when the system dies (or replace the compressor myself if I have the *****). This car is definitely not designed to be supported by an engineer salary alone.... should've picked a better major in school.

Ordered a tuning cable and green filters from Shardul, excited to see how the car will change once I pick it up.


What drew you to the LM-2?

Is there a guide you refer to for values to monitor?
















And lastly, I saw radar detector being mentioned, I think that will be a must... thoughts? How reliable do you feel they are? I am definitely hungry for some speed runs on these nice Floridian roads... but I already went to court once for 30 over and my insurance premium spiked quite a bit...

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Originally Posted by Yuille36
I have a Escort Passport 9500ci installed in my E63, definitely not in the lease cheap, but will save your ***
Jesus... yeah no kidding... but again it's a lot cheaper than going straight to jail.

How long do these last before they get outdated in your honest opinion???

Time to hit up craigslist...
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Well, mine is outdated already as Escort no longer makes this model. Passport has two new models available, that replaced the 9500ci, but they still supports it, you pay $50 a year for all the updates related to speed cameras, software, etc. But the new ones still utilize much of the same technology. Currently there isn't another manufacturers installed radar detector that's better, besides another Passport.
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I got the LM-2 from BlackHammer. I took the information I found on the board here and was able to figure out what needed to be done to log the factory sensors properly. Shoot me a pm and I'll send you the docs I used to set up either a Zeitronix or an Innovate LM-2.
It helps that I have had experience previously in the industry but I am glad to share what i know.
That is why in my opinion we have these forums.
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http://ultra-gauge.com/ultragauge/ultragauge_wired.htm
UltraGauge Features:
  • Supports most 1996 and newer OBDII compliant vehicles***
  • Supports more than 78 selectable Gauges*
  • Real time and long term mileage gauges
  • Distance-To-Empty and Time-to-Empty gauges
  • Auto-Page advance, cycles through gauge pages
  • Configurable low and high alarms for every gauge
  • Audible and Visual Alarms
  • Alarms may be individually suspended.
  • Displays both current and pending trouble codes
  • Clear Check Engine Light and Trouble Codes
  • Current and pending Trouble Code Alarms
  • Automatic fuel fill-up detection **
  • Oil change and Service Gauges
  • Trip Gauges
  • Performance Measurements (UG Plus only)
  • Emissions Readiness Monitors (UG Plus only)
  • Additional wide band O2 sensors (Both UG Plus and UG MX models)
  • Can access non-OBDII, proprietary Manufacturer Parameters (MX only)
  • Speed calibration for tire, wheel, transmission, and/or differential changes
  • Health indicator
  • Internal temperature sensor that can be monitored and alarmed
  • Fuel mixture closed and open loop indicator.
  • Large LCD Display
  • Display Brightness adjusts automatically to ambient light; automatic night driving
  • Lightweight easy to route OBD II cable
  • Compact and minimally intrusive.
  • Several mounting options offered
  • Low power
  • Retains configuration and accumulated data across power cycles
  • Automatically detects and turns off display when vehicle ignition off.
  • Comprehensive menu system
  • Comprehensive detailed user manual
* Actual number of gauges supported is vehicle dependent
** Auto Fill-up detection is not available on all vehicles.
*** Some vehicles may not be OBD-II compliant. Compliance is printed on the emission decal typically located in the engine compartment. See example OBDII emission decals here

$79.99. I think when I bought it I received a 9 dollar discount.
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Originally Posted by hachiroku
http://ultra-gauge.com/ultragauge/ultragauge_wired.htm
UltraGauge Features:
  • Supports most 1996 and newer OBDII compliant vehicles***
  • Supports more than 78 selectable Gauges*
  • Real time and long term mileage gauges
  • Distance-To-Empty and Time-to-Empty gauges
  • Auto-Page advance, cycles through gauge pages
  • Configurable low and high alarms for every gauge
  • Audible and Visual Alarms
  • Alarms may be individually suspended.
  • Displays both current and pending trouble codes
  • Clear Check Engine Light and Trouble Codes
  • Current and pending Trouble Code Alarms
  • Automatic fuel fill-up detection **
  • Oil change and Service Gauges
  • Trip Gauges
  • Performance Measurements (UG Plus only)
  • Emissions Readiness Monitors (UG Plus only)
  • Additional wide band O2 sensors (Both UG Plus and UG MX models)
  • Can access non-OBDII, proprietary Manufacturer Parameters (MX only)
  • Speed calibration for tire, wheel, transmission, and/or differential changes
  • Health indicator
  • Internal temperature sensor that can be monitored and alarmed
  • Fuel mixture closed and open loop indicator.
  • Large LCD Display
  • Display Brightness adjusts automatically to ambient light; automatic night driving
  • Lightweight easy to route OBD II cable
  • Compact and minimally intrusive.
  • Several mounting options offered
  • Low power
  • Retains configuration and accumulated data across power cycles
  • Automatically detects and turns off display when vehicle ignition off.
  • Comprehensive menu system
  • Comprehensive detailed user manual
* Actual number of gauges supported is vehicle dependent
** Auto Fill-up detection is not available on all vehicles.
*** Some vehicles may not be OBD-II compliant. Compliance is printed on the emission decal typically located in the engine compartment. See example OBDII emission decals here

$79.99. I think when I bought it I received a 9 dollar discount.

How does this compare to the zeitronix really?
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for me...this serves its purpose. I have not used a zeitronix. For monitoring it has been superb. If you were to use it as a sole reference for engine operations that would be a toss up. response time is as good as I've seen from a digital gauge. beyond that you would best use bars, charts, or psudo analog gauges. I'm not sure exactly all the display modes available, or if you're only able to display numbers. I do wished that they included functions that use calculations to display things differently. I.e. AFR from lambda or voltage to AFR. simple things like that aren't supported. the unit basically just displays what your computer sees. I do enjoy displaying trip MPG, instant MPG, and wideband lambda. Oh ya I did email them about adding feature of zeroing the throttle pedal display. they said this wasn't supported so absolute throttle will essentially only display actual throttle position based off the sensor itself.

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