OK need advice and help P0106 and hiccup, reward again offered
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From: FRISCO TEXAS
2006 E55
I have a stock throttle body and still have theses issues. They started about a month or less after I got my tune from lawshee. Other then the occasional cel with a p0106 she runs well. I’ll never attempt the 80 or 82 tb as I have seen nothing but issues. Mine isn’t a daily driver so it’s only driven on weekends, when I go out of town or during the week if the wife and I go out to eat. I’ve had it 4 years and only put about 30k miles on it since I bought used.
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so i decided to try something to get rid of my p0106. when i bought my tune i was also given the latest stock tune from mercedes for the E55 so i loaded that tune on my car and no p0106 for three days. i do have a cel but thats for my deleted cats and not a p0106. rough idle/hiccup that usually happens after i get on the throttle and come to a light is gone. will update after about a week or so and see if it stays away. if so does this prove its in the tune?
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Try a second tuner and see if that does anything if you can confirm it’s not a leak.
I can also confirm there are two engine control module updates for the E55. One came out in 2007, the other one a few years later.
I can also confirm there are two engine control module updates for the E55. One came out in 2007, the other one a few years later.
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Can this possibly mean that updating the ECM to the latest software and then tuning the car again could possibly solve the p0106?
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I’m not a tuner and I have no idea. MB doesn’t know you tuned your car and the updates are not for your individual car but rather for all corresponding ECUs in general.
Also, the updates are not being flashed to the same EEPROM/MC’s addresses as your tune file data. That is the reason why one can safely update the ECU without fear of overwriting the tune.
Also, the updates are not being flashed to the same EEPROM/MC’s addresses as your tune file data. That is the reason why one can safely update the ECU without fear of overwriting the tune.
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From: FRISCO TEXAS
2006 E55
im 99.999999 % sure i have no leaks. smoke tested and all new gaskets and ive done the brake cleaner trick. gonna try the propane trick but if i had a leak wouldnt the p0106 come back regardless of the tune? when i slow down and come to a stop now the rpm's drop and immediately level off and its smooth as hell. im going to drive it this way for a couple weeks and see if i get the p0106 and ill be monitoring my fuel trims. not saying ive totally fixed this problem but dont remember hearing of anyone trying this so why not.
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Honestly I think something crashes or the computer goes to an incompatible backup map/configuration when the car is getting parameters outside of its expected ranges. I had that metal pipe loose that goes into the surge tank. Car was running good except if I cruised at low speed eventually something would trip, and the car would go into 25% fuel trims and shake like crazy at idle. Rebooting the car would fix the problem. At first it was just once every like 6 months, and it eventually got to the point it'd almost happen every time I drove. I assume it was coz the air leak got worse. I got the airleak fixed at dealership and I have never had any issues since.
Germans say that the issue with the TB is because the units cause turbulence that spikes the parameters out of the expected bounds and reverts it to a backup map that is incompatible with your tune or something like that. All the US tuners we're using said they dont touch any backup maps or configurations when tuning so.
Germans say that the issue with the TB is because the units cause turbulence that spikes the parameters out of the expected bounds and reverts it to a backup map that is incompatible with your tune or something like that. All the US tuners we're using said they dont touch any backup maps or configurations when tuning so.
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From: FRISCO TEXAS
2006 E55
still no p0106 and still running on updated stock tune. no hiccups so far. thinking about throwing my stock air intake back on as well. wondering if the larger intake has anything to do with the p0106. i read something about the the extra air causing issues/turbulence. ill try and find a link and post.
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ok so still no p0106 on the stock tune. will load the modded tune back this weekend and see if the p0106 returns. looking for a stock y pipe so i can go back to stock. if p0106 returns after loading mod tune then i will swap back to stock intake and see what that does.
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From: FRISCO TEXAS
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so been running on the stock for a couple months now. replaced some vacuum hoses, crankcase breather tubes, new heat xchanger from plm and new mz wp136s pump. car has been running great with no cel. decided to flash back to the stage two tune and it threw the cel with the P0106 the first time i got on the throttle and then slowed down at a light. stumbling idle cam back as well. it doesn't go away with a key turn either i have to clear with obdii reader. at this point im just gonna run on the stock tune. i have ZERO leaks and have been pressure tested and smoke tested several times to verify. i emailed tuner for his input.
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so i got my updated file from Tony and WOW. first impressions are great. no cel for p0106 as it would happen instantly, idle is very smooth now and when i nail it and slow to a stop id doesnt stumble or sound like its gonna die. i had a very bad drone from 2800 to 3000 rpm in any gear and that is gone. less sc lag and pulls harder. gonna run it and keep track of how it runs for a week and get back to him. car feels better than it has ever. very pleased with his work and his customer service. thanks tony
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Did you flash the stock file back on before you read it out with Tony’s tool to send him the file? I’m sure Tony didn’t work off of the other tune that was in your ECU.
I’ll wait for you to report back after a week but I’m about to pull the trigger too and move on from EC and try Tony's.
I’ll wait for you to report back after a week but I’m about to pull the trigger too and move on from EC and try Tony's.
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No i emailed tony any new mods since last tune, only a bigger pump, and told him to the best of my ability what was happening and he emailed me an updated tune and I loaded via laptop and cable.
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From: FRISCO TEXAS
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Couldn’t agree more. Tony has ALWAYS responded in a reasonable time frame and puts up with my stupid questions. Car feels so much better now. I really need a good data logger so I can give tony better and more precise info to make his job easier.
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From: Denver, CO
06' E55 AMG, 03' E55 AMG
Tony tried his best to get my code to go away but we just couldn't get it to stop. The car would start going lean sometimes without even throwing codes so I just gave up on a bigger TB. Tried both 80 and 82 no luck. Tony is a great tuner and my car runs awesome! I think the problem has something to do with my specific ECU or something weird but at this point, it's not worth messing with anymore.
And at the time I bought my tune from Tony a few years ago he would do free retunes for new mods for life, if you want a road or dyno tune you have to pay but his pricing is very fair. Not sure if he still offers free retunes now. Next AMG I buy will be tuned by Tony no matter what.
And at the time I bought my tune from Tony a few years ago he would do free retunes for new mods for life, if you want a road or dyno tune you have to pay but his pricing is very fair. Not sure if he still offers free retunes now. Next AMG I buy will be tuned by Tony no matter what.
