W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 07:18 PM
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Procharged m113k

anybody do this yet? I read some threads on it awhile back.

You would probably loose some power in lower rpm but would more than make up for it once you get going. 90mm TB, LT headers, meth, with a procharger you could get close to 1000 whp.

Seems to to be a little bit easier to do this than going the turbo route. A lot less piping to run.
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 11:08 PM
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imho, it would ruin the personality of the car.
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Old Apr 19, 2018 | 12:28 AM
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I assume this is centrifugal? The brutal low down torque is part of the personality of this car. Yes it would be awesome but it would be cheaper, easier and more fitting to chuck it on an LSx car instead.
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Old Apr 19, 2018 | 11:14 AM
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I quickly looked around on their product pages, lots of kits run only about 7PSI. How much PSI would you need to run to get to this hypothetical 1000HP? Seems unlikely.
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Old Apr 19, 2018 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jumph4x
I quickly looked around on their product pages, lots of kits run only about 7PSI. How much PSI would you need to run to get to this hypothetical 1000HP? Seems unlikely.
17 psi, domestic v8s hit 1000hp all the time with prochargers. Yes most of the time they have more displacement but mustangs do it too. They usually cap out the roots or screw chargers on them than switch to a centrifugal. Why don't we?
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Old Apr 20, 2018 | 12:18 AM
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This is not an easy or cheap platform for big power. Compared to LS engines, everything is more difficult and there are very limited high HP parts. LS stuff you can grab off the shelf. The heads don't flow enough either. Most people are quite content with some mild upgrades. The market is a lot smaller.
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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 02:28 AM
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I'd do it just for the hell of it. But I certainly don't want to be the first lol.
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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 01:08 PM
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Are you referring to having the car twincharged then? Retaining the factory blower and adding on Prochargers centrifugal type? Definitely not a lot of space there for it which is why people simply put different roots/screw blowers in place of the factory unit. Sounds to me like it would be a tremendous amount of work for little to no benefit of throwing a bigger blower in place of the factory.
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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by brdaun
Are you referring to having the car twincharged then? Retaining the factory blower and adding on Prochargers centrifugal type? Definitely not a lot of space there for it which is why people simply put different roots/screw blowers in place of the factory unit. Sounds to me like it would be a tremendous amount of work for little to no benefit of throwing a bigger blower in place of the factory.
The blower can be gutted and just used as an intake manifold basically.

I'm curious as to why no one has gone about making an intake manifold that will work with other aftermarket units. They're basically all the same and will just bolt on top, you just need the manifold and fuel sorted out. I mean, the Weistec unit is just that. I'm sure it could be done for cheaper though.
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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 06:23 PM
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I'd do it just for the hell of it. But I certainly don't want to be the first lol.
I'm going to do its just on the back burner right now.
I like the idea of gutting the supercharger but I'm just going to get a n/a manifold.

Im doing it on a s55 so once I remove the 5 gallon windshield washer fluid tank and relocate the coolant reservoir there will be more then enough room.
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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 06:26 PM
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As far as amount of work to do it, would probably only take a weekend. Make the braket, weld or bend the pipe which ever you prefer. Mount the air to air inter cooler. Doesn't sound that hard and should be done for under 3k
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If you do it, you will definitely have some impressive top end. Eurocharged can probably sort out a tune on the stock ecu to suit. Should be quick to dial in since boost is so linear. You will have to get a bypass valve. Hopefully not going with a blow off valve!
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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 09:30 PM
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Probably take a weekend??? LOL......
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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 09:34 PM
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Probably take a weekend??? LOL......
yea man, sat find intake manifold/fab up brackets/intercooler setup/install....then sunday tune and beers. easy.
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Easier said then done. At least to make it look nice. You are close to me.
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Easier said then done. At least to make it look nice. You are close to me.
i was joking lol. it would take 2-3 weeks to fab up a proper kit. let alone the tuning nightmare that would be. sure the M113K is a speed density car...but dang man it would be a big job.
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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 11:35 PM
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Hopefully he means install in a weekend after weeks of trial and error, measuring, CNC a well engineered aluminum bracket, new pulleys etc. The stock ecu should be ok off boost but a centrifugal will allow for pressures, afr's and timing not seen with a twin screw. Shouldn't take more than a couple of datalogs to get close.
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I've always been interested in this however what head unit would you use & where to mount it would be the question.
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A Procharger is something I'm considering in my long term plan for the CLK55 I'm building. The engine bay has lots of room on the passenger side, and I've seen one with a Procharger before so I know it's possible. Not sure about fitting one on the W211 chassis though, there's not a lot of room in there.
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