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Old 09-12-2018, 07:15 PM
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Does anyone know if the W211 E63 and the C63 share the same length X Pipe with the MBH system? Has anyone ran into any fitment issue at all? The x pipe that came with my system is stickered C63, and I was told it was the same that my car uses, but I’m installing this right now and ran into this. Any suggestions?

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Does anyone know if the W211 E63 and the C63 share the same length X Pipe with the MBH system? Has anyone ran into any fitment issue at all? The x pipe that came with my system is stickered C63, and I was told it was the same that my car uses, but I’m installing this right now and ran into this. Any suggestions?
if you have a W211 E63 and the Xpipe says C63 you have the wrong Xpipe. Contact me and we will get it swapped out.
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if you have a W211 E63 and the Xpipe says C63 you have the wrong Xpipe. Contact me and we will get it swapped out.
Mike, I emailed you about this very same issue when I first received the package and you stated on your reply to me that they both used the same x pipe. Now you’re telling me a whole different thing when my car is sitting in the garage with only the headers and mid pipes on, and I have an x pipe that doesn’t fit. This is very annoying to say the least.
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Mike, I emailed you about this very same issue when I first received the package and you stated on your reply to me that they both used the same x pipe. Now you’re telling me a whole different thing when my car is sitting in the garage with only the headers and mid pipes on, and I have an x pipe that doesn’t fit. This is very annoying to say the least.
When I got that email I thought it was for a W212. It is my fault. The E63 W212 the C63 and share the same end flanges. The W211 E63 shares the same flanges with the E55. I can get it swapped out ASAP.
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When I got that email I thought it was for a W212. It is my fault. The E63 W212 the C63 and share the same end flanges. The W211 E63 shares the same flanges with the E55. I can get it swapped out ASAP.
I’ll contact you in the morning, and we’ll proceed. Thank you.
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I’ll contact you in the morning, and we’ll proceed. Thank you.
I think I have one in stock, If i do I will just overnight it to you in Vegas.
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I think I have one in stock, If i do I will just overnight it to you in Vegas.
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I think I have one in stock, If i do I will just overnight it to you in Vegas.
Wait till you hear from me. I wanna see if I can try and make something work first. Thanks, Mike.
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I think I have one in stock, If i do I will just overnight it to you in Vegas.
Odd. You told me my headers should ship later this week because the mid section w/ x pipe takes time. Now you have one in stock?? Am I missing something?

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Odd. You told me my headers should ship later this week because the mid section w/ x pipe takes time. Now you have one in stock?? Am I missing something?
they take time cause he is sending yours to the other guy ,,, get the torches and pitchforks -- whatever
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Odd. You told me my headers should ship later this week because the mid section w/ x pipe takes time. Now you have one in stock?? Am I missing something?


To swap from a 2" die set in a mandrel bender to a 3" die set takes a long time. We might have a 2" tie set of a 1.75" die set in the bender for a full week before we can make a swap. In fact it's usually how it is. So when we build stuff we do it in batches. Meaning its not good practice to to spend all day swapping die sets just to bend up one Xpipe. The bending program is also different from a mid-section to an Xpipe. You have to make best use of your time. Also the W211 E63 and E55 require a 2 bolt flange that has to be machined out and that as well takes time. Once those are done, you still have to form the flange ends and just like the other parts, its not good practice to make just one. Hopes this helps
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To swap from a 2" die set in a mandrel bender to a 3" die set takes a long time. We might have a 2" tie set of a 1.75" die set in the bender for a full week before we can make a swap. In fact it's usually how it is. So when we build stuff we do it in batches. Meaning its not good practice to to spend all day swapping die sets just to bend up one Xpipe. The bending program is also different from a mid-section to an Xpipe. You have to make best use of your time. Also the W211 E63 and E55 require a 2 bolt flange that has to be machined out and that as well takes time. Once those are done, you still have to form the flange ends and just like the other parts, its not good practice to make just one. Hopes this helps
TLDR : it’s not good to make one
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Originally Posted by MBH motorsports
I think I have one in stock, If i do I will just overnight it to you in Vegas.
Mike, I think I can make this C63 X pipe work with the system you sent me. On the other hand, to make the OEM X brace work, is another different ball game. I don’t like the possibility of rattling with the pipes. Instead of swapping the X Pipes as you suggested, can you send me the X brace you supposedly make to replace the OEM one? I know a lot of people run their systems without a brace at all, but I’d rather have some support in place.
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Mike, I think I can make this C63 X pipe work with the system you sent me. On the other hand, to make the OEM X brace work, is another different ball game. I don’t like the possibility of rattling with the pipes. Instead of swapping the X Pipes as you suggested, can you send me the X brace you supposedly make to replace the OEM one? I know a lot of people run their systems without a brace at all, but I’d rather have some support in place.
Our system deletes that cross bar. We haven't made or sell that cross car in many years.
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Hey Mike, do you know if the headers from a w212 m156 fit on w211's? Found a set of MBH's locally but couldn't find any info on whether they worked or not.
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Originally Posted by MBH motorsports
To swap from a 2" die set in a mandrel bender to a 3" die set takes a long time. We might have a 2" tie set of a 1.75" die set in the bender for a full week before we can make a swap. In fact it's usually how it is. So when we build stuff we do it in batches. Meaning its not good practice to to spend all day swapping die sets just to bend up one Xpipe. The bending program is also different from a mid-section to an Xpipe. You have to make best use of your time. Also the W211 E63 and E55 require a 2 bolt flange that has to be machined out and that as well takes time. Once those are done, you still have to form the flange ends and just like the other parts, its not good practice to make just one. Hopes this helps
I was referring to the fact that you said you had to make my mid section, which takes time and is the process you are describing above, but then you tell the OP you may have one in stock??? If you have one in stock, why am I waiting for you to make one?
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I was referring to the fact that you said you had to make my mid section, which takes time and is the process you are describing above, but then you tell the OP you may have one in stock??? If you have one in stock, why am I waiting for you to make one?
The Xpipe and the mid-section are two different items. Your system consists of 3 parts. Mid-section with Xpipe and cats.
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The Xpipe and the mid-section are two different items. Your system consists of 3 parts. Mid-section with Xpipe and cats.
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