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so Finally got a day off went and got it installed. I also did my IC Pump to turn ON when ignition key in the ON position as well. To be honest I really didn’t see a huge difference in IAT’s it was 92 degrees outside hottest it got 108-110. Usually it runs that way even before the secondary install, I have a super flow pump. I couldn’t really get on it due to traffic to see how recovery is but I doubt it’s gonna be a whole lot better. I’m hoping it made some difference.
damn thats a bummer, i was going to order one till i saw this.
well supposedly it works, for me I’ve been looking at my IAT’s for weeks now and know that just with the superflow pump I run 10-12 degrees above ambient when cruising. If I’m stuck in traffic, not moving about 20-25 above. Hoping Always ON pump will solve that a tad bit when stuck in traffic. As far as initially with this secondary I honestly can’t tell a difference. Maybe if I get a chance to get on it tomorrow see if it’s noticable at least in recovery. With just my super flow pump it takes anywhere from 20-30 seconds sometimes longer to go back to starting temps before wide open throttle run. Maybe it can cut that time down a little will see. Also keep in mind I haven’t yet been done testing it. So in another couple of days driving in stop and go and wife open runs I’ll know for sure and post with results.
Another myth about the factory intercooler pump- it comes on the very first time the engine sees any boost and stays on until you turn the key off - I tested it myself. And all these years and nobody to my knowledge has placed a temp probe in the inlet and outlet of any heat exchanger to see what's really happening. I still think the heat soak is at our too-small intercooler and no matter what size heat exchanger we have it doesn't make any difference.
Last edited by E55Greasemonkey; 10-01-2018 at 10:21 PM.
yeah bro defo get some good data, it would help so many people, i feel u with a cm30 and heat exchagner i run the same temp as you, supposedly it will knock down recovery by 20 seconds. but is that worth it for 200 haha i may go with the underhood tank i feel like its the most safe effective way
yeah bro defo get some good data, it would help so many people, i feel u with a cm30 and heat exchagner i run the same temp as you, supposedly it will knock down recovery by 20 seconds. but is that worth it for 200 haha i may go with the underhood tank i feel like its the most safe effective way
ill get get back to you guys tomorrow for sure. Only diffinet thing I can say is cruising speeds nothing has changed. I have to check stop and go traffic and wot runs and will get back to you guys.
Another myth about the factory intercooler pump- it comes on the very first time the engine sees any boost and stays on until you turn the key off - I tested it myself. And all these years and nobody to my knowledge has placed a temp probe in the inlet and outlet of any heat exchanger to see what's really happening. I still think the heat soak is at our too-small intercooler and no matter what size heat exchanger we have it doesn't make any difference.
after i I decide whether I want to do headers or not I’ll either stay with the cooling I have or do meth kit. I honestly wasn’t expecting much as far as cooling with a secondary. I’ve modded so many cars that I’m never surprised when something doesn’t work as it’s stated or maybe it does and there are many different scenarios that get in the way, I don’t know. As we speak I’m now more focused on the belt slip I’m getting and ordered a BWK. Thought a slightly smaller and HD belt would help but nada. Nothing is easy for me, lol.
I'm just giving you a hard time. There wasn't a pic posted though when I first saw the thread. They don't have to get approved or anything like that.
No worries brotha. I was trying to upload some more pics but ill just wait till I get home. Plus it will give me the opportunity to see how it does with the IAT's.
Ok drove it today to and from work and since I was monitoring IAT’s for weeks in this drive I know fairly well what to expect.
82 degrees outside cruising temp streets or freeway 96-97 IAT’s. This is were I can’t tell much of a difference from before at all. So in this area I’m gonna call it a wash.
Stuck in traffic 30 minutes stop and go and it would go from 97 to 100-101 IAT’s. Before it would climb to 115-120 IAT’s.
Now full throttle 1st gear till the top of 2nd reaches 132 IAT’s but within in 6-8 seconds quickly drops to 104 and another 5 seconds later to 100 degrees IAT’s. That’s coming to a stop so no airflow. On the freeway 3rd gear to redline and it would quickly drop back down to 96-97 IAT’s in 8-10 seconds. I know full well as outside temps go up IAT’s are equally effected. All I can do is show results based on outside temps as we speak.
This is not a scientific or tested to some people’s liking evaluation of a secondary heat exchanger. In my opinion there is no doubt that the secondary heat exchanger has worked. Especially stuck in traffic and recovery times. Cruising speeds no and for some reason I’m not surprised by that. I think with my superflow pump this secondary H/E they compliment each other very well.
Would i I do this mod again 100% I know my car and I’ve been watching IAT’s for a while. I’m not tracking my car, this is a car I drive a couple of times a week. For me the cooling is just right. Very glad I did it. I’m trying to attach some pics but it’s a no go just doesn’t load.
Thanks for the information. I was considering this exchanger a while ago but decided with my driving I would rarely experience any benefit over the PLM and updated Bosch pump. Great work!
Thanks for the information. I was considering this exchanger a while ago but decided with my driving I would rarely experience any benefit over the PLM and updated Bosch pump. Great work!
no worries wish I was more specific but I’ve watched IAT’s for a while I knew if there was a change I’ll notice it right away. Wanted to mention as well it heats up at a slower speed as well which is another thing I noticed.
Its a good idea. Placement is adversely affecting total heat rejection. This should go where the air pump (is for most, WAS for me) - and have a pulled fan behind.
Another myth about the factory intercooler pump- it comes on the very first time the engine sees any boost and stays on until you turn the key off - I tested it myself. And all these years and nobody to my knowledge has placed a temp probe in the inlet and outlet of any heat exchanger to see what's really happening. I still think the heat soak is at our too-small intercooler and no matter what size heat exchanger we have it doesn't make any difference.
glad to hear some one tested the pump and actually wrote about here. because i have a clutch-less pulley and was stumped about the whole issue of pump not running when needed it to be. but since you did the test and it kick on when boost start. thanks. It make sense I did 7 dyno runs in one day and power did not loose much. thanks for the tip.
Fyi adding this extra exchanger won't change much with all the kinks and turns added..
Many of these products are gimmicks and don't do anything since the concern is adding more then the stock cooler can handle.
These cars are set from amg to flow what they based on as amg maxed out .
i respect were your coming from but there is a reason why certain amg’s have 2 heat exchangers. I myself knew peak temps would not change much but recovery and stuck in stop and go would, how much before changing it I had no idea. In my case it helped with the superflow pump I already had. The mechanic I took it too tried talking me out of it and said the same thing your saying, although I do respect him and he’s a great guy, he was wrong. Everyone has there opinions and thinks they know, I don’t think I know much of anything really but I looked at my IAT’s very well weeks before on a daily. I’m not tracking this car and would a killer chiller be better?, yes much. I’m the biggest critic and would for sure say it if I thought it did nothing. At the end was the cost in parts and labor worth it, I don’t think so. I paid 260 for part and 480 for install. So not a bargain there unless you know that can do it cheaper or you do it yourself.
They have 2 heat exchangers the new ones??I have yet to see a amg come with 2 heat changers unless it's turbo..Turbo cars are not the same as supercharged cars as the blower is sitting on top if the block with a intercooler above it.
They have 2 heat exchangers the new ones??I have yet to see a amg come with 2 heat changers unless it's turbo..Turbo cars are not the same as supercharged cars as the blower is sitting on top if the block with a intercooler above it.
i thought for sure 55 amg’s other then eclass have dual. Never mentioned new turbo amg’s.
No stock car did ..Unless someone added it .Again.the cooler is the problem not the he..This the glory of blower cars many never had these cars of this nature so they think they run hot etc..If you had a cobra you would know about this situation .
No stock car did ..Unless someone added it .Again.the cooler is the problem not the he..This the glory of blower cars many never had these cars of this nature so they think they run hot etc..If you had a cobra you would know about this situation .
either way for me it made a difference. I’m happy with it just wished I spent a little less.
10-01-2018, 08:51 PM
There wasn't a pic posted though when I first saw the thread. They don't have to get approved or anything like that.
