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Speedy55 10-08-2018 07:51 PM
Odometer fraud found
 
Hi Guys!
So I’m a former w211 E55 owner. I’ve since switched to a W212 2012 E63 with the twin turbo which I’m not entirely happy with compared to the E55. But that’s a story for a different day.
Todays story is regarding my old E55 which I’ve recently found on a local sales website “Kijiji” here in Ontario Canada.
I have found my old beloved E55, it’s being sold by the guy whom I sold it to at the shop that I dropped it off at and with the same scrapes and marking that were on it before. The only difference is that the car is 100,xxxkm light...
What do you think should be done about this, or should it be left alone.
i personally don’t think it is morally acceptable to do something like this, he is advertising it with 195,xxxkm and I know that when I sold it to him it was close to 300,xxxkm. I thought these practices were a thing of the past considering each time I renew my plate sticker I have to input my km, which if my memory serves me would have been around the 275,xxxkm mark. Unless this guy being a garage owner has someone one the inside manipulating the info.
let me know what you guys think.

w204_racing 10-08-2018 08:03 PM
Originally Posted by Speedy55 (Post 7572620)
Hi Guys!
So I’m a former w211 E55 owner. I’ve since switched to a W212 2012 E63 with the twin turbo which I’m not entirely happy with compared to the E55. But that’s a story for a different day.
Todays story is regarding my old E55 which I’ve recently found on a local sales website “Kijiji” here in Ontario Canada.
I have found my old beloved E55, it’s being sold by the guy whom I sold it to at the shop that I dropped it off at and with the same scrapes and marking that were on it before. The only difference is that the car is 100,xxxkm light...
What do you think should be done about this, or should it be left alone.
i personally don’t think it is morally acceptable to do something like this, he is advertising it with 195,xxxkm and I know that when I sold it to him it was close to 300,xxxkm. I thought these practices were a thing of the past considering each time I renew my plate sticker I have to input my km, which if my memory serves me would have been around the 275,xxxkm mark. Unless this guy being a garage owner has someone one the inside manipulating the info.
let me know what you guys think.
I would do everything I could to **** this guys day, he’s seling a car 62,000 miles lower. That’s crazy! Don’t go crazy on him, inform him that you are the previous owner and that you had XXX miles on it and it’s literally impossible. If he doesn’t do anything about it, report him.

503C43 ////AMG 10-08-2018 08:09 PM
Originally Posted by Speedy55 (Post 7572620)
Hi Guys!
So I’m a former w211 E55 owner. I’ve since switched to a W212 2012 E63 with the twin turbo which I’m not entirely happy with compared to the E55. But that’s a story for a different day.
Todays story is regarding my old E55 which I’ve recently found on a local sales website “Kijiji” here in Ontario Canada.
I have found my old beloved E55, it’s being sold by the guy whom I sold it to at the shop that I dropped it off at and with the same scrapes and marking that were on it before. The only difference is that the car is 100,xxxkm light...
What do you think should be done about this, or should it be left alone.
i personally don’t think it is morally acceptable to do something like this, he is advertising it with 195,xxxkm and I know that when I sold it to him it was close to 300,xxxkm. I thought these practices were a thing of the past considering each time I renew my plate sticker I have to input my km, which if my memory serves me would have been around the 275,xxxkm mark. Unless this guy being a garage owner has someone one the inside manipulating the info.
let me know what you guys think.
is it exactly 100,000 km light? could it be a typo? I would contact them and see what they say

Speedy55 10-08-2018 09:13 PM
Originally Posted by 503C43 ////AMG (Post 7572643)
is it exactly 100,000 km light? could it be a typo? I would contact them and see what they say
it’s not a typo, I called him and he verbally confirmed it. Also told me it’s never been winter driven which is bull. The guy is trying to pull a fast one and it doesn’t sit well with me. Also trying to ask 5k more than what I sold to him for which I would do too if my car had 100km less!

w204_racing 10-08-2018 10:16 PM
Originally Posted by Speedy55 (Post 7572690)

it’s not a typo, I called him and he verbally confirmed it. Also told me it’s never been winter driven which is bull. The guy is trying to pull a fast one and it doesn’t sit well with me. Also trying to ask 5k more than what I sold to him for which I would do too if my car had 100km less!
well tell him you are who sold it to him, scare him. Lol

N_Rob 10-08-2018 10:57 PM
I would definitely make it known to him that you know the mileage is a lie, and threaten to involve local authorities if he doesn't resolve it. Odometer rollback is illegal. Wouldn't this be exposed with a simple Carfax report though?

new55 10-09-2018 07:22 AM
post vin number and maybe someone can run carfax, you could put a down payment buy the car yourself and turn around and sue the scumbag and call your state authorities - he is one of the reasons auto insurance is so high

Bahnstormer 10-09-2018 08:04 AM
I would alert the proper authorities and let them handle it.

thxrick 10-09-2018 08:17 AM
I would let him know then call the authorities.

cfmistry 10-09-2018 08:35 AM
Originally Posted by Bahnstormer (Post 7572902)
I would alert the proper authorities and let them handle it.
I agree with this. No need to get involved with him directly.

w204_racing 10-09-2018 08:49 AM
Originally Posted by cfmistry (Post 7572920)


I agree with this. No need to get involved with him directly.
at least give him a chance to fix himself, this could mean serious consequences

new55 10-09-2018 09:16 AM
Originally Posted by w204_racing (Post 7572932)

at least give him a chance to fix himself, this could mean serious consequences
really ?- wtf - he already committed the fraud - now you are allowing him to do it and to others - the fact that you say that you are complicit with the felony crime - and he may have already defrauded several before this - how would you like to be a victim of this ?

rapidoxidation 10-09-2018 09:35 AM
It's a federal offense here in the US. Can't imagine Canadadaia is much different.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/49/32703
w204, he had his chance to fix himself just before he decided to roll back the odometer.

BTW, the guy must have either some mad computer skills or is there another way to change the odometer reading? A replacement instrument cluster, perhaps?

Edited to add: OP, how about a link to the car advert?

w204_racing 10-09-2018 10:03 PM
Originally Posted by new55 (Post 7572952)
really ?- wtf - he already committed the fraud - now you are allowing him to do it and to others - the fact that you say that you are complicit with the felony crime - and he may have already defrauded several before this - how would you like to be a victim of this ?
everyone has their own opinions, I just think some people should be given a second chance. See if he sticks to his story. Play it off by saying “hey are you sure it’s xxx miles, I remember exact car selling
with
more”

if he lies, then **** him up lol

kenneyd 10-11-2018 01:23 PM
List the car on the same places he has it with warning, and your story. Ive done that several times when i found lying sellers of cars.

I take good pictures and typically find picture of cars ive owned being used from scams. scum bags

anomadtoo 10-11-2018 02:14 PM
it seems you already have enough proof, just relay the info to the authorities (and news channels) and let them investigate it. There could be many more people that's been scammed. They'll find out if so in an investigation.


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